[36m Public Message [36mMessage # 2 *MM1_TECH Echo*[32m To : Dave Kelly [33mFrom : Warren Hrach [35mSubject : Re: MGR windows [37mDate : 96/06/02 10:38:05[33m On Tuesday, May 14th, 1996 - Dave Kelly wrote: DK> Is there a library for MGR? Something to write code with to do DK> overlay windows and such. How about documentation? Dave, See next msg. Warren [37m--- RiBBS OSK Beta * Origin: Ocean Beach MM/1 Support BBS (619) 224-4878 (1:202/745.1) [36m Public Message [36mMessage # 3 *MM1_TECH Echo*[32m To : Dave Kelly [33mFrom : Warren Hrach [35mSubject : MGR windows [37mDate : 96/06/02 10:40:05[33m Dave, Here is a copy of the index and read.me from syscon-ind.com. If you see something that I don't have let me know and I can get for you. BTW I was told Chris Hawks is working on an desktop for the MGR for the MM/1b and/or 306. Have you been able to use MGR at all ?. --------------------------- cut here --------------------------------- Size Date File Name Description ------- ------------ -------------------------- ------------------------------- 214 Jan 3 20:37 Read.Me occasionally current information 19814 Jan 12 01:39 mgr-apps/ico.gz "bouncing polyhedron" demo program which runs in an mgr window 237 Jan 10 09:01 drivers/prsnam.gz better version of prsnam 8858 Apr 30 09:31 drivers/partition.tar.gz IDE driver that handles partitions and has longer timeout (stops #000:175) 2918 Apr 9 06:26 drivers/sc68306_38.lzh driver for 68306 serial ports 1792 Jan 11 23:14 drivers/sc87303_3.lzh driver for 16550 serial ports 643 Jan 11 23:15 drivers/scp87303_2.lzh driver for parallel port 2325 Apr 4 08:38 drivers/scsi1505.gz Adaptec driver for 15xx card that does 8 bit I/O but does work. 3432 Jan 11 23:15 drivers/scsipas16d_1.lzh driver for sound blaster scsi port 11781 Jan 10 09:01 mgr/defs1.tar.gz /dd/defs/mgr/* - has macros needed to do mgr apps 30462 Jan 10 15:52 mgr/1to7xX.lzh fonts 1x? through 7x? pcl 88037 Jan 10 15:52 mgr/8xXp1.lzh fonts 8x? part 1 pcl 103853 Jan 10 15:52 mgr/8xXp2.lzh fonts 8x? part 2 pcl 119060 Jan 10 15:52 mgr/8xXp3.lzh fonts 8x? part 3 pcl 95072 Jan 10 15:52 mgr/8xXp4.lzh fonts 8x? part 4 pcl 108438 Jan 10 15:52 mgr/9to10xX.lzh fonts 9x? through 10x? pcl 113335 Jan 12 16:42 mgr/11to18xX.lzh fonts 11x? through 18x? pcl 85038 Jan 12 16:42 mgr/19to29xX.lzh fonts 19x? through 29x? pcl 85862 Jan 12 16:42 mgr/30to99xX.lzh fonts 30x? through 99x? pcl 47094 Jan 20 13:11 mgr/cat.tar.gz man pages in plain text 42204 Jan 20 13:11 mgr/doc.tar.gz man pages with underline & etc. 10567 Jan 20 12:41 mgr/loadfont.gz loads a new mgr font 7344 Jan 10 09:01 mgr/mgr.l.gz lib used for mgr apps 81361 Jan 10 09:01 mgr/mgr10.gz ed. 10 of mgr. faster scroll, -v and -f fixes 10504 Jan 20 12:42 mgr/selfont.gz loads a new mgr font 1589 Jan 20 12:42 mgr/testmouse.gz _really_ dumb mouse test util 53672 Jan 4 14:40 mgr/mgr_man.lzh prelim programmer's manual 24632 Jan 10 09:01 mgr/misc.tar.gz termcap, terminfo and etc. 1028 Jan 5 16:48 mgr/ptys8.gz ptys - necessary to run mgr 805348 Dec 29 23:20 mgr/sys.tar.gz /dd/sys/mgr/font and /dd/sys/mgr/icon 6900 Apr 4 08:39 utils/ideutils.lzh First try utilities for new rbide that handles partitions. 80314 Jan 28 12:51 utils/less290.tar.gz 'less is more' 6393 Jan 20 12:42 utils/scmode.gz vcmode for serial devices 6312 Jan 15 07:48 vc/api.doc docs on the VC API 2253 Jan 15 09:25 vc/defs.tar.gz defs files for programmers 2180 Jan 20 12:42 vc/modes latest version of mode sheet 1199 Jan 10 09:01 vc/lib1.tar.gz libs associated with VCs 17073 Jan 5 16:45 vc/vc8.tar.gz ed. 8 of the VCs 20443 Jan 3 20:35 vc/vc9.tar.gz ed. 9 of the VCs 10104 Jan 10 09:25 vc/vc10.tar.gz ed. 10 of VCs - does 1024x768x256 13279 Jan 5 17:32 vc/vcmode.gz latest vcmode ------------------------- end index start uploads ------------------------ Size Date File Name Description ------- ------------ -------------------------- ------------------------------- 8858 Apr 30 09:31 drivers/partition.tar.gz IDE driver that handles partitions and has longer timeout (stops #000:175) ------------------------- end attachments ----------------------------- BTW try to get my name spelled right ! ; Warren Hrach Good luck, Warren Hrach, RiBBS/RiBBS_MM1 beta sysop, MM/1, MM/1b sales rep. [37m--- RiBBS OSK Beta * Origin: Ocean Beach RiBBS_MM1 support BBS (619) 224-4878 (1:202/745.1) [36m Public Message [31m(Rec) [36mMessage # 5 *MM1_TECH Echo*[32m To : Warren Hrach [33mFrom : Wes Evans [35mSubject : MM/1 REPAIR REP. [37mDate : 96/06/05 02:19:00[33m Warren, Just curious, since I WAS an avid CoCo-Nut for a few years, how much are the MM1 bare bones systems going for? The reason I ask is that I am considering getting back into the OS-9 again, but why bother if you don't have a hard drive for the CoCo. Even though I still have all my CoCo equipment, I am reluctant to set it all up since a "DOS PC" is much more compact when considering the "footprint" on the desk. I do have a lot of extra PC (MS-DOS compatible that is) equipment laying around and apparently the MM-1 can incorporate standard ISA devices. So to get back to the subject at hand, Can an old 286 system be used with all the peripherials on an MM1 and if so, how much are the MM1's main boards going for? Thanks in advance, Outta time... ................................... Wes ................................... [37m--- FLAME v1.1 * Origin: The King's Market BBS (1:104/115) [36m Public Message [31m(Rec) [36mMessage # 6 *MM1_TECH Echo*[32m To : Warren Hrach [33mFrom : Dave Kelly [35mSubject : MGR windows [37mDate : 96/06/03 18:59:00[33m Thanks for the list. Sorry about the name. Will try harder. [37m--- Maximus 2.02 * Origin: THE GOLDEN COCO other's COMPUTER (1:106/941) [36m Public Message [36mMessage # 7 *MM1_TECH Echo*[32m To : Wes Evans [33mFrom : Warren Hrach [35mSubject : Re: MM/1 REPAIR REP. [37mDate : 96/06/06 08:01:17[33m On Wednesday, June 5th, 1996 - Wes Evans wrote: WE> Just curious, since I WAS an avid CoCo-Nut for a few years, how much WE> are the MM1 bare bones systems going for? The reason I ask is that I WE> am considering getting back into the OS-9 again, but why bother if WE> you don't have a hard drive for the CoCo. Even though I still have WE> all my CoCo equipment, I am reluctant to set it all up since a "DOS WE> PC" is much more compact when considering the "footprint" on the WE> desk. I do have a lot of extra PC (MS-DOS compatible that is) WE> equipment laying around and apparently the MM-1 can incorporate WE> standard ISA devices. So to get back to the subject at hand, Can an WE> old 286 system be used with all the peripherials on an MM1 and if so, WE> how much are the MM1's main boards going for? Thanks in advance, Wes, I cannot quote prices on the ehco, fido rules. But you can call my BBS and get the latest info for both the MM/1 and MM/1b. The MM/1 can use xt keyboards, mouse's, floppy drives, case and P/S from MS-Dos machines. However it has a SCSI bus and needs SCSI hard drives. It uses RGB Analog monitors such as the R.S. CM-8 or Maganavox 8cm515. The MM/1b however is based on the ISA devices and has the STD bus system that you can plug VGA, Soundblaster, devices into. It also uses IDE drives and of course std floppy drives. The MM/1 has a big base of software but the MM/1b is only getting started so not much available. The MM/1 has Kwindows (like os9 windows) and the MM/1b has MGR which is not fully implemented yet. The MM/1 is a two board system whereas the MM/1b has a single mother board that fits a mini tower case nicely. Costwise the MM/1 2 board system runs less than $800 and the MM/1b is under $500. That is the best I can do on pricing over Fido. Warren Hrach, RiBBS/RiBBS_MM1 beta sysop, MM/1 Sales Rep. [37m--- RiBBS OSK Beta * Origin: Ocean Beach MM/1 Support BBS (619) 224-4878 (1:202/745.1) [36m Public Message [36mMessage # 8 *MM1_TECH Echo*[32m To : All [33mFrom : John A. Donaldson [35mSubject : RIBBS_MM1 and 33.6KB Modems [37mDate : 96/06/07 20:48:00[33m I bought a new USR 33.6KB Modem and had trouble getting RIBBS_MM1 to work with it. I suppect the same will be the case with COCO RIBBS. It seems the Basic/Basic09 routines can not handle baud rates over 16.8KB. Also the Hardware Flow Control built into the modem is not compatible. I suppect that to get RIIBS to fully use the newer high speed modems, RIBBS will need to be re-written into C or ASM. The AT code sequence to make a 33.6KB modem work with RIBBS is: ATE1V1Q0M1&F0&U1&N8S0=0S11=50 It is VERY important that the &F0 is used. Do not use the &F1/2 formats. The builtin hardware/software flow control does not work with RIBBS. The &U1/&N8 set the baud rate to float between 300 - 14400 baud rate. John A. Donaldson RIBBS_MM1 Team Leader [37m--- RiBBS_MM1 Beta * Origin: Red Dragon BBS (1:106/941.1) [36m Public Message [36mMessage # 9 *MM1_TECH Echo*[32m To : All [33mFrom : Warren Hrach [35mSubject : MGR Desktop [37mDate : 96/06/13 12:36:27[33m I have just put the Desktop first release for MGR on the MM/1b (306) in my MM/1b support download section. Files reside in the MM/1b application dir. Names 'mgrdesk.tar.gz' and 'ico.gz'. The ico is a demo program for the desktop. Warren Hrach, RiBBS/RiBBS_MM1 beta sysop. [37m--- RiBBS OSK Beta * Origin: Ocean Beach RiBBS_MM1 support BBS (619) 224-4878 (1:202/745.1) [36m Public Message [36mMessage # 15 *MM1_TECH Echo*[32m To : All [33mFrom : Dave Kelly [35mSubject : getopt.h [37mDate : 96/06/09 21:16:00 [32mNext Reply is Message [33m76[33m In the code to several OSK C files I have run into a (DEFS) header file 'getopt.h' and a function 'getopt()'. This seems to be used to read the arguments to 'main()'. Is this a MW thing that I dont have in the C Compiler version 3.2 or is it something developed by someone else? ALSO where can I get a copy of Carl Kreiders C library updates for OSK? [37m--- Maximus 2.02 * Origin: THE GOLDEN COCO other's COMPUTER (1:106/941) [36m Public Message [36mMessage # 29 *MM1_TECH Echo*[32m To : Dave Kelly [33mFrom : Dean Leiber [35mSubject : Re: getopt.h [37mDate : 96/06/17 22:29:14[33m Hi Dave! If I'm not mistaken getopt() is one of those quasi-standard way to get options from the command line. I know that it appears in alot of Unix stuff, but I think it came from teh "c" User's group some millenium ago. I probably have a copy around here somewhere if ya need it. Dean [37m--- RiBBS OSK Beta * Origin: Ocean Beach MM/1 BBS (619) 224-4878 (1:202/745.1) [36m Public Message [36mMessage # 76 *MM1_TECH Echo*[32m To : Dave Kelly [33mFrom : James Jones [35mSubject : Re: getopt.h [37mDate : 96/06/22 22:24:56 [32mPrevious Reply is Message [33m15 [33m That's not part of the stock compiler library; probably someone has written a clone of the getopt() Unix library function that's intended to do uniform command line argument parsing. 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