read new nonstop follow 89131 6-AUG 19:36 Applications (6809) RE: Word processor (Re: Msg 89129) From: KENTMH To: REVWCP Br. Jeremy- Am I correct in understanding you are selling the CoNect Rs232 Pak? If so, what are the terms? I need a First Class Pak! Kent -*- 89141 7-AUG 01:58 Applications (6809) RE: Word processor (Re: Msg 89131) From: REVWCP To: KENTMH No. I am not selling it myself. I was recommending it. Rick Ulland (RICKULAND) on Delphi stills has them available. I would suggest that you get in touch with him. With all best wishes, Brother Jeremy, CSJW OS9 User's Group Treasurer -*- 89150 7-AUG 13:32 Applications (6809) RE: Word processor (Re: Msg 89141) From: KENTMH To: REVWCP Br. Jeremy- Thanks, I'll contact Rick. Kent -*- End of Thread. -*- 89132 6-AUG 21:41 General Information RE: CD-i == Way Cool... (Re: Msg 89101) From: PHXKEN To: MREGC Renting of CD-i machines in Phoenix is from a store called "GAMERS" My local one is at 35th Ave and W. Thunderbird Rd. Glad to hear that Best Buy now has more CD-i titles to choose from. You said that the prices were cheaper. I paid $17.95 at IU for Mozart. That is about the price for audio CD. I will check out Best Buy to see how their price compares. We have a store at Metro Center. If you find the BlockBuster in Phoenix that rents CD-i titles, let me know. I heard that in San Francisco, they are testing the CD-i but I had not heard about a Phoenix test. My sources have been a Video Magazine and Game Pro Magazine. The Video Mag I found in the Phoenix libraries and We subscribe to Game Pro. STAY TUNED GANG FOR NEW AND EXCITED RUMORS ABOUT OUR FAVORITE GAME MACHINE>HA HA. -*- 89135 6-AUG 22:22 General Information RE: CD-i == Way Cool... (Re: Msg 89132) From: MREGC To: PHXKEN Best Buy isn't much cheaper, but every little bit helps! :) Titles that I bought for about $47 at Best Buy were selling in the mid 50s at IU. ..Eric... -*- End of Thread. -*- 89133 6-AUG 21:56 General Information multivue From: PHXKEN To: ALAIN1155 CAREFUL! I see that someone mentioned the autoex file in your CMDS directory. It is the same as multistart with a new name but it does start automagically. I NEVER anymore use that file since I got locked out of my hard drives. I now always use multistart to bring up MultiView. What is one more key stroke as opposed to losing access to the hard drives. I guess the method is fine for a floppy only system. BTW, being a careful fellow, I do the same thing with Windows on my PC and always boot up in DOS and then call up Windows. Well, that's my 1 cent worth! -*- 89144 7-AUG 08:40 General Information RE: multivue (Re: Msg 89133) From: ALAIN1155 To: PHXKEN Thanks for the advice Alain -*- 89156 7-AUG 17:27 General Information RE: multivue (Re: Msg 89144) From: COLORSYSTEMS To: ALAIN1155 I would start up what you are obviously referring to as "multivue" (Multi-Vue is the entire package of GUI support modules and utilities. The actual graphics shell is GShell.) with the command: gshell <>>>/w& Of course, this requires that all of your window devices be patched to be Type 1 or 2 Hardware Windows and that the mouse has been configured if you are using a hires mouse. ------------------------------------ Zack C Sessions If you're not the "lead dog", the scenery never changes. -*- 89159 7-AUG 20:51 General Information RE: multivue (Re: Msg 89133) From: DBREEDING To: PHXKEN > CAREFUL! > I see that someone mentioned the autoex file in your CMDS directory. > It is the same as multistart with a new name but it does start > automagically. > I NEVER anymore use that file since I got locked out of my hard drives. > I now always use multistart to bring up MultiView. Good point. I never used M-V myself, as it just didn't cut it, really. Like you, On my System 5, I don't (yet) boot into GWindows, maybe later. However, RE: getting locked out of the HD, you could always have an emergency boot disk that would boot to the floppy. You could leave out the HD descriptor in the boot, or rename it to something else (like "hf" or something). Or, if you have your Sysgo set to boot to "/dd", then you could have the emergency disk with "/dd" set to /d0. -- David Breeding -- CompuServe : 72330,2051 Delphi : DBREEDING *** Sent via CoCo-InfoXpress V1.01 *** ^^^^ ^^^^^^^^^^ -*- 89163 7-AUG 23:07 General Information RE: multivue (Re: Msg 89159) From: CHARLESAM To: DBREEDING Funny you should mention that subject (HD Lockout). I changed my shell module last month so I could better run Cocotop. Forgot to set the attr to 'e pe '. Result= lockout. I just finished making the boot you describe. I just had to add h0 and hdisk to a floppy boot and change cc3go from h0 to d0. Works fine. Now I'll make a few backups just in case. I'm forever getting locked out due to forgetting to set the attributes after merging new modules. I never learn. I was without my hard drive for a month due to being to busy to straighten out the error. What was worst was my games are on the HD, and I was too busy to dig out the originals to play from floppy. No games for a month. Geez, it was bad, but the wife loved it. She got to see my face for change. ;-) Of course, after a month of looking at my sour puss, she's probably thrilled to see my back again. Now let me finish up here and get on to Solitaire. I believe everyone must make this mistake at least once.... with me its routine. later Charlie -*- 89171 8-AUG 07:04 General Information RE: multivue (Re: Msg 89156) From: ALAIN1155 To: COLORSYSTEMS (NR) What would be the purpose of doing gshell <>>>/w& Alain -*- 89181 8-AUG 20:17 General Information RE: multivue (Re: Msg 89163) From: DSRTFOX To: CHARLESAM Charlie, did you get CoCotop running on the hard drive okay? Chris stated that there seemed to be some kind of problem when it was auto started from the hard drive. Wondering if you ran into that... -*- 89184 8-AUG 22:25 General Information RE: multivue (Re: Msg 89181) From: CHARLESAM To: DSRTFOX Oh! I thought it was my incompetance. No, I haven't had much success with it. I was just thinking, maybe I need to run this from floppy. Glad to see I was on the right track. I'll try it from floppy and see what happens. I'll get back to you on it. Thanx Charlie -*- End of Thread. -*- 89134 6-AUG 21:59 General Information RE: Old Monk, New Toy (Re: Msg 89120) From: PHXKEN To: REVWCP Isn't that the same company name as on some modems today? Prac Perf. (sp) -*- 89136 7-AUG 00:59 General Information RE: Crashed Coco3 (Re: Msg 88762) From: NEALSTEWARD To: TEDJAEGER I am using a MultiPak Interface with the SCII and KenTon SCSI pak, not a Y-cable (i know they aren't compatible). I did talk with Alan Sheltra, and he mentioned that many people have had problems with the "lands" on the card edge of the MPI. I re-tinned mine, and I am using it now. A few days or weeks of use will tell me if that solved the problem. Thanks for the input anyway... -*- 89137 7-AUG 01:02 General Information RE: Crashed Coco3 (Re: Msg 88766) From: NEALSTEWARD To: COCOKIWI Yes the RGB ROM is in a socket, so is the 6309, but all works fine when I install the boot ROM into the KenTon SCSI pak and plug it directly into the coco. I may have found the source of the problem, I retinned the "lands" on the card edge of the MPI and the system is working tonight. I will know after using the system for awhile if that was the problem. Thanks for your help anyway. Aaaaaaaaaaaah, nice to have me ol' coco working again! -*- 89142 7-AUG 04:28 General Information RE: Crashed Coco3 (Re: Msg 89137) From: COCOKIWI To: NEALSTEWARD (NR) not a good thing to do!It will work for a while..The big problem is those old "Tandy gold"contacts........The best way to fix is the change the way the thing plugs in! By changing the CoCo-3 socket to a 40 pin right angle "pin" connector...soldering another "straight"pin connector to the MPI edge connector ............ and a "SHORT" cable with TWO sockets! HEY presto no more problems!.......Dennis -*- 89177 8-AUG 20:07 General Information RE: Crashed Coco3 (Re: Msg 89137) From: DSRTFOX To: NEALSTEWARD (NR) Neal, when you use the KT with your disk controller, is the ROM left in the disk controller as well as in the KT? I know you set the MPI to the slot that the bootrom is in... -*- End of Thread. -*- 89138 7-AUG 01:30 Telecom (6809) RE: VT100 emulation (Re: Msg 88916) From: NEALSTEWARD To: DWHILL I'm trying out OSTerm 2.08 right now. If the author is still available, I'll be sending a shareware donation soon. This thing is fantastic! The VT100 is operating here and on our local "Freenet" system. I'm not familiar enought with VT100 to tell you if it supports the full protocol, but it seems fine for what I need. -*- 89162 7-AUG 21:34 Telecom (6809) RE: VT100 emulation (Re: Msg 89138) From: JEJONES To: NEALSTEWARD (NR) > I'm trying out OSTerm 2.08 right now. If the author is still available, > I'll be sending a shareware donation soon. Vaughn Cato is still out there, though I don't know what his current address is. Perhaps one of the folks who are currently maintaining the (commercial) OS-9/68000 version could pass the info along. > This thing is fantastic! When the CoCo was my main home machine, it was my terminal program of choice. Opinions herein are solely those of their respective authors. Clipper Chip: Big Brother Inside -*- 89164 7-AUG 23:52 Telecom (6809) RE: VT100 emulation (Re: Msg 89138) From: DWHILL To: NEALSTEWARD (NR) VT100 seems to be working reasonably well; I haven't quite gotten the hang of doing a zmodem transfer with it, but otherwise it's allowing me to work on this Internet system with full-page editors and readers like pine and trn. I used Osterm a long time ago, but found that Supercomm offered more of the features I wanted in a terminal; well, at least until I finally had to had VT100 emulation capability. Vaughn Cato should still be around--he's one smart programmer! --Damon -*- 89192 9-AUG 00:12 Telecom (6809) RE: VT100 emulation (Re: Msg 89138) From: KSCALES To: NEALSTEWARD (NR) Hi, Neal - > I'm trying out OSTerm 2.08 right now. If the author is still available, > I'll be sending a shareware donation soon. This thing is fantastic! Vaughn is still available, and can be reached at the same address that is given in the documentation (in Marietta, GA). (Unless it's changed very recently! That's where Northern Xposure has been sending his royalties for OSTerm 68K...) Cheers... / Ken -------------------------------------------------------------------------- Ken Scales Delphi:KSCALES Internet:kscales@delphi.com CIS:74646,2237 -- Composed with KVed/Ved and uploaded with InfoXpress -- -*- End of Thread. -*- 89139 7-AUG 01:44 General Information RE: sidewise and business software. (Re: Msg 89096) From: NEALSTEWARD To: ALAIN1155 Sidewise has been released as Shareware. Not sure if I saw it here or on Compuserve. If not, ECCCC BBS has it (716)649-1368 in their OS-9 section. I don't know about the accounting package you mentioned, but Chris Ddekker has Accounting Level 2 available, although I still haven't been able to install it on my hard drive. -*- 89145 7-AUG 08:41 General Information RE: sidewise and business software. (Re: Msg 89139) From: ALAIN1155 To: NEALSTEWARD (NR) Thanks , can you tell me what level 2 accounting does, might be interested. Also give an address or phone number so i can order a copy Alain -*- 89178 8-AUG 20:08 General Information RE: sidewise and business software. (Re: Msg 89145) From: DSRTFOX To: NEALSTEWARD (NR) Neal, would you be willing to write a review of Accounting Level II for me? Could use it!! -*- End of Thread. -*- 89140 7-AUG 01:47 General Information RE: IRQ Mod (Re: Msg 89124) From: NEALSTEWARD To: MMCCLELLAND You can install a 3PST toggle switch to disconnect the IRQ hack when using it under RSDOS with ROMpaks. -*- 89143 7-AUG 08:39 General Information RE: multivue (Re: Msg 89102) From: ALAIN1155 To: PHILSCHERER Yes i have along with multistart Alain -*- 89155 7-AUG 17:27 General Information RE: multivue (Re: Msg 89143) From: COLORSYSTEMS To: ALAIN1155 > Yes i have along with multistart I think if you run an ident on multistart and the autoex from the MultiVue disk, you'll find that they are the same program. ------------------------------------ Zack C Sessions If you're not the "lead dog", the scenery never changes. -*- 89170 8-AUG 07:03 General Information RE: multivue (Re: Msg 89155) From: ALAIN1155 To: COLORSYSTEMS (NR) yep that i found out already. Would it be possible then to patch multistart to do a dir /dd automatically on startup? Alain -*- 89173 8-AUG 18:09 General Information RE: multivue (Re: Msg 89143) From: PHILSCHERER To: ALAIN1155 Be sure the attr of autoex shows an 'e'--it should fire up MV. You do have WindInt instead of vdgint in your bootlist?????? -*- 89243 12-AUG 05:24 General Information RE: multivue (Re: Msg 89173) From: ALAIN1155 To: PHILSCHERER yep got that. still i put dir /dd at the last line of my startup file but when the multi-vue window appeared, no directory. -*- 89247 12-AUG 20:05 General Information RE: multivue (Re: Msg 89243) From: PHILSCHERER To: ALAIN1155 (NR) Did the drive symbols appear on the left side of the MV screen? Were there scroll bars on the side of it? -*- End of Thread. -*- 89146 7-AUG 08:48 General Information multi time sharing From: ALAIN1155 To: ALL I would like to know how i can hook up 2 or more coco together to have tomg on OS-9. Will the other machine be able to access the drive and printer as well. Alain -*- 89147 7-AUG 08:50 General Information using RMA From: ALAIN1155 To: ALL Could someone explain how to use RMA to assemble os-9 machine language program. i have a couple of assembly source that i tried to assemble with RMA but everytime it returne bad mnemonic on all codes or bad label Alain -*- 89160 7-AUG 20:51 General Information RE: using RMA (Re: Msg 89147) From: DBREEDING To: ALAIN1155 > Could someone explain how to use RMA to assemble os-9 machine language > i have a couple of assembly source that i tried to assemble with RMA but > everytime it returne bad mnemonic on all codes or bad label Are you using source written for the "ASM" assembler? This would have the " mod" directive toward the begin of the program. If so, this is the problem. There is a little difference in the directives. "RMA" needs the "psect" directive, and the "endsect" (or "ends") at the end. Check your docs for details. -- David Breeding -- CompuServe : 72330,2051 Delphi : DBREEDING *** Sent via CoCo-InfoXpress V1.01 *** ^^^^ ^^^^^^^^^^ -*- 89172 8-AUG 07:05 General Information RE: using RMA (Re: Msg 89160) From: ALAIN1155 To: DBREEDING I'll do that but it has done the same when i tried typing the example in the docs alain -*- 89264 13-AUG 15:09 General Information RE: using RMA (Re: Msg 89172) From: DBREEDING To: ALAIN1155 (NR) > I'll do that but it has done the same when i tried typing the example in > the docs One other thing... are you putting in the spaces at the correct place? You need a space before the opcode (no space before a label definition). Oh yes, you need a space before the "psect", and the psect MUST come before any vsects. If you have typed in the example listing correctly, it should work.. -- David Breeding -- CompuServe : 72330,2051 Delphi : DBREEDING *** Sent via CoCo-InfoXpress V1.01 *** ^^^^ ^^^^^^^^^^ -*- End of Thread. -*- 89148 7-AUG 08:53 General Information desktop From: ALAIN1155 To: ALL Does anyone knows a good desktop program beside home publisher for the OS-9. Also does anyone has a copy of the business software that was sold by compuware in 1985-86. The were a package containing payroll, ledger, acc. recevable, acc payable. Anyone will in to sell it or give me one copy would be welcome. Alain -*- 89179 8-AUG 20:12 General Information RE: desktop (Re: Msg 89148) From: DSRTFOX To: ALAIN1155 Alain, Chris Dekker's Accounting Level II has what you are looking for. It works by opening three device windows on screen at once, allowing you to see all transactions at the same time. You'll need 512K and an RGB monitor to run it. His number is 506-276-4841 (RR#4 Centreville, NB E0J 1H0) Price is $34.95 -*- 89244 12-AUG 05:25 General Information RE: desktop (Re: Msg 89179) From: ALAIN1155 To: DSRTFOX (NR) Thnaks very much will call him Alain -*- End of Thread. -*- 89149 7-AUG 11:16 OSK Applications MM/1 5 1/4 drive From: JIMGIFF To: ALL Can anyone tell me how to get this TEAC FD-55 1.2MB/360Kb drive to work on my MM/1. I want to retrieve data from my CoCO disks as well as some PC disks. -*- 89151 7-AUG 16:20 General Information RE: Press Release (Re: Msg 89007) From: 01GEN40 To: JOELHEGBERG Hi Joel, Thanx for the info. I shall order my copy at the earliest possible time. LONG LIVE OS-9! ** In whatever form it is in! -= 01GEN40 =- -*- 89152 7-AUG 16:27 General Information RE: OSK Software (Re: Msg 89010) From: 01GEN40 To: JEVESTAL Hi Jim, Very interesting notion: a 14.4 Fax/Modem on the CoCo. Too bad, I think the CoCo is limited to 9600 baud. I have one installed in a 386 messy-dog machine at work and I am amazed at the speed. What takes me 10 minutes on my CoCo at 2400 baud is like 30 seconds at work. Even still, I will not give up my CoCos either. Even if I do end up with a 486DX2-66 messy-dog running OS-9000 like I want. See ya. LONG LIVE OS-9! ** In whatever form it is in! -= 01GEN40 =- -*- 89169 8-AUG 04:30 General Information RE: OSK Software (Re: Msg 89152) From: JEVESTAL To: 01GEN40 > Hi Jim, > Very interesting notion: a 14.4 Fax/Modem on the CoCo. Too bad, I > think the CoCo is limited to 9600 baud. I have one installed in a 386 > messy-dog machine at work and I am amazed at the speed. What takes me 10 > minutes on my CoCo at 2400 baud is like 30 seconds at work. Even still, I > will not give up my CoCos either. Even if I do end up with a 486DX2-66 > messy-dog running OS-9000 like I want. See ya. Actually OS-9 term programs with a standard 6551A UART can only handle throughput of about 4800 bps reliably on my unmodified 6809 CoCo systems. Under Disk Basic, U-term can connect at 14.4 without character loss and download with a throughput of about 1000 cps. Jim ======================== InfoXpress 01.01.00 OS-9/6809 ====================== | Narnia BBS: 11pm-7am PDT serving CoCo OS-9 users ----|---- StG network: sysop@Narnia "Exclusively OS-9" | Delphi: JEVestal@delphi.com Marysville, CA InterNet: JEVestal@narnia.wa.com | or : JEVestal@citrus.sac.ca.us (916) 743-2617 Voice: 7am-11pm PDT :1 Corinthians 1:18 & Romans 1:16 ============================================================================= Jim Vestal: Assistant editor of The International OS-9 Underground, "Magazine dedicated to OS-9/OSK Users Everywhere -*- 89187 8-AUG 22:29 General Information RE: OSK Software (Re: Msg 89169) From: 01GEN40 To: JEVESTAL (NR) Hi Jim, I do not like basic, nuf said! See ya. LONG LIVE OS-9! ** In whatever form it is in! -= 01GEN40 =- -*- 89228 11-AUG 03:51 General Information RE: OSK Software (Re: Msg 89152) From: COCOKIWI To: 01GEN40 (NR) I,d love os9000......I have a 486DX-33...8 meg.......and the wife now has a 486SX2-50............. Dennis -*- 89233 11-AUG 18:21 General Information RE: OSK Software (Re: Msg 89152) From: MIKE_GUZZI To: 01GEN40 (NR) Under RSDOS using ultimaterm, I have been able to open up my sportster modem to the full 14400 baud rate (port speed 19200 baud) with no problem. under os9 9600 seems to be the limit. I am very close to being able to do 19200 under os9. maybe a new release of nitros-9 will give the tweek of speed i need to get it. (adjusting the timeslicing would probably do the trick) -*- End of Thread. -*- 89153 7-AUG 16:50 System Modules (6809) RE: Making a new boot disk from scratch (Re: Msg 89042) From: 01GEN40 To: ISC Bill, It is on pages 6-70,71 the the 3" OS-9 manual as well. Mine anyway... LONG LIVE OS-9! ** In whatever form it is in! -= 01GEN40 =- -*- 89154 7-AUG 16:53 System Modules (6809) RE: Making a new boot disk from scratch (Re: Msg 89153) From: ISC To: 01GEN40 Pages 6-70, 71 in my OS-9 manual are the OS9Gen command. Bill -*- 89157 7-AUG 20:06 System Modules (6809) RE: Making a new boot disk from scratch (Re: Msg 89086) From: DBREEDING To: DSRTFOX > Bill, I did as you said, only exited with a plain BREAK (you didn't > mention how to get OUT of it!!!!). And I forgot to run COBBLER before I > had to quit and come to work too. Will try it all again tomorrow. Frank, I assume you're MODPATCH'ing from the keyboard? You can also modpatch from a file. I prefer this method over keyboard, since I'm prone to hit the wrong key then before I catch it . If you do this, you can either : modpatch filename patchfile or modpatch filename < patchfile Either way works. Some hints: 1. Don't leave an empty line in the file (you know, simply CR). Modpatch will abort. 2. I think you can use the command "q" to quit, not sure, but otherwise, the end of file will end it (I think). Modpatch will work on any type module in memory. -- David Breeding -- CompuServe : 72330,2051 Delphi : DBREEDING *** Sent via CoCo-InfoXpress V1.01 *** ^^^^ ^^^^^^^^^^ -*- 89175 8-AUG 19:56 System Modules (6809) RE: Making a new boot disk from scratch (Re: Msg 89103) From: DSRTFOX To: ISC You did mention it earlier Bill, just left out the "exit with CTRL/BREAK", or I didn't write it down for some reason. Anyway, I seem to have it now, thanks! -*- 89180 8-AUG 20:13 System Modules (6809) RE: Making a new boot disk from scratch (Re: Msg 89154) From: DSRTFOX To: ISC The earliest OS-9 manual set had a few things missing!!! One was any mention at all of modpatch!! Mine is an early version... -*- 89185 8-AUG 22:26 System Modules (6809) RE: Making a new boot disk from scratch (Re: Msg 89154) From: 01GEN40 To: ISC Hi Bill, You are using OS-9 Level 2 right? I do seem to think you stated that in one of your messages. I just opened my manual and found that Modpatch is on 4 pages not 2. Someone else left a list of the options and commands associated with Modpatch, so I shall not persue this any longer. One more thought though, the last copyright date in mine is 1986, what is yours? I do have another copy of OS-9 Level 2 in the shrinkwrap that I might be willing to part with if you would like to be "more current". It cost me some $$$ though, so would would not be able to just "give" it away. :-) This copy does have a binder with it too. Let me know. See ya. LONG LIVE OS-9! ** In whatever form it is in! -= 01GEN40 =- -*- 89186 8-AUG 22:27 System Modules (6809) RE: Making a new boot disk from scratch (Re: Msg 89180) From: ISC To: DSRTFOX Frank, My OS-9 manual must be an early one too, then. I bought it in Chicago while I was there on business. The CoCo announcement about Rat Shack's discontinued support had occurred about a week before. A business trip was scheduled for many parts of the country at that time, and I would cruise local Rat Shacks for CoCo stuff. I learned how to use Modpatch from the people here! Bill -*- 89188 8-AUG 22:30 System Modules (6809) RE: Making a new boot disk from scratch (Re: Msg 89185) From: ISC To: 01GEN40 How much do you want for your copy of the late OS-9? I'm interested. Bill -*- 89190 8-AUG 22:42 System Modules (6809) RE: Making a new boot disk from scratch (Re: Msg 89188) From: 01GEN40 To: ISC Hows $30.00 sound, I pay shipping? See ya. LONG LIVE OS-9! ** In whatever form it is in! -= 01GEN40 =- -*- 89198 9-AUG 18:15 System Modules (6809) RE: Making a new boot disk from scratch (Re: Msg 89190) From: ISC To: 01GEN40 (NR) Let me search my files - upon further rummaging, I have found an updated OS-9 manual since I talked here to you. If I find the diskettes, I may not be in need of the system, however, thanks for being there. I'll get back to you. Bill -*- 89214 10-AUG 21:33 System Modules (6809) RE: Making a new boot disk from scratch (Re: Msg 89198) From: DSRTFOX To: ISC There are only a couple extra pages in the "updated" manual. I'll try to get a list of waht was added. -*- 89224 11-AUG 00:09 System Modules (6809) RE: Making a new boot disk from scratch (Re: Msg 89214) From: ISC To: DSRTFOX (NR) Great. Thanks, Frank. Bill -*- End of Thread. -*- 89158 7-AUG 20:08 Programmers Den RE: program update (Re: Msg 89121) From: DBREEDING To: CPERRAULT > Now my next problem was, it would > return all those files, but keep returning them over in over again. What I > was doing was, I had a for/next loop.... > simple solution. Yeah, things like that are sometimes real stumpers, and makes you want to slap yourself on the head when you see it. I've done this many times. Most times I'll edit a while, list the prog (paper companies just LOVE me ), then edit some more... list... I had my first coco some time before I got a printer. Talk about having a hard time debugging.... You can look all day at a screen and often never find the problem... look at a printout and that semicolon that doesn't belong just jumps out at ya.. The good news is, I'm just about done. Great! Will be looking for it. BTW.. If you're doing a lot of Basic programming, do you have "gfx3"? It's something like "gfx2" I wrote some years back. Does a lot of the get/setstatt calls. I think it makes programming somewhat easier. Dunno if it's still up or not.. someone else uploaded it, as I was not online at that time. -- David Breeding -- CompuServe : 72330,2051 Delphi : DBREEDING *** Sent via CoCo-InfoXpress V1.01 *** ^^^^ ^^^^^^^^^^ -*- 89200 9-AUG 20:31 Programmers Den RE: program update (Re: Msg 89158) From: CPERRAULT To: DBREEDING >>You can look all day at a screen and often never find the problem...<< I'm the same way. Without a printer I don't even bother trying to code, as the screen just seems to complicate it for some reason. I can't understand what it is, as you would thing one display is similar to another, but yet here I am printing out at least 20 sheets a day >>If you're doing a lot of Basic programming, do you have "gfx3"?<< Yes, I have it, but haven't yet played around with it. I do plan on getting familiar with it after my next couple programming projects are finished. It looks like a very usefull package! Btw, yes it is on Delphi. This is where I got it :-) >Chris< -*- 89269 13-AUG 15:12 Programmers Den RE: program update (Re: Msg 89200) From: DBREEDING To: CPERRAULT (NR) > >>If you're doing a lot of Basic programming, do you have > "gfx3"?<< > > Yes, I have it, but haven't yet played around with it. I do plan > on getting familiar with it after my next couple programming projects > are finished. It looks like a very usefull package! > Btw, yes it is on Delphi. This is where I got it :-) I'm assuming it's the same one I did. Actually, as I stated in the docs, I got the idea from a Basic version by Dale Puckett, so I can't claim credit for originating the idea. I did it in assembly, gave the option of whether to use the path # or not, and tried to make it more like "gfx2" in syntax to avoid confusion. I used the package some bit when I fooled with Basic09. It seemed to simplify doing the calls. -- David Breeding -- CompuServe : 72330,2051 Delphi : DBREEDING *** Sent via CoCo-InfoXpress V1.01 *** ^^^^ ^^^^^^^^^^ -*- End of Thread. -*- 89161 7-AUG 21:33 General Information RE: Computer Scienc (Re: Msg 88971) From: JEJONES To: ILLUSIONIST > I know alot of OS-9 users are Computer Science students, so, I figure I > will post this here...I have 6 com. sci. related books that I would > like to get rid of. (I just dont have the room for all my books) anyway > they are: > > Algorithms by Robert Sedgewick > Algorithms in C .... > Algorithms in Modula-3 > > Fundamental Algorithms by Don Knuth > Seminumerical Algorithms .... > Searching and Sorting ..... I hasten to add that 1. The Knuth books are classics in their field (and the algorithms are given in a fairly rigidly structured flowchart plus English form as well as in MIX assembler (a mythical machine loosely inspired by architectures current when Knuth first wrote the books), so they're quite useful. They're encyclopedic up to the time of writing. 2. Sedgewick, if I remember correctly, studied under Knuth, and his books are, while not as monumental, more modern, and well worth your while. Opinions herein are solely those of their respective authors. Clipper Chip: Big Brother Inside -*- 89165 8-AUG 01:53 General Information RE: File xfer (Re: Msg 89034) From: TIMKIENTZLE To: MROWEN01 Actually,Kermit should work even over telnet or rlogin connections. Haven't tried it, but I've heard about people using it over telnet before, though there could be some slight trick. Especially with windowing Kermit, it should even be quite fast, although I don't recall if delphi supports windowing Kermit or not. - Tim -*- 89166 8-AUG 04:27 General Information RE: File xfer (Re: Msg 89046) From: JEVESTAL To: MROWEN01 > Binary transfers can cause all kinds of headaches for communications > equipment. The Internet is a huge collection of heterogeneous stuff! > However, TEXT usually gets handled fine. UUENCODE is a utility that > converts a binary file into a format that can be transfered like text. > When you receive a file that has been uuencoded you can undo the > conversion with the uudecode utility. These were originally designed to > allow file transfers over UUCP and Unix mail. Once you uuencode a file you > simply mail it to the destination. > (limit is 64k per file for mail though). There are uuencode/decode > utilities for OS-9 on the database here (i think). This is how I transfer > stuff from my unix machine sometimes. FTP is superior of course, but > Delphi doesn't have an FTP server. I don't know if you can uuencode on > Delphi or not. This may not help you with your problem, but hopefully it > answers some of your questions about uuencode. Delphi doesn't allow you to uuencode online, but you can uuencode a file on your home system and upload it to your workspace on Delphi and send it via mail or ftp to another computer on the internet. The other person would download it to their home computer and then uudecode it. Usually there is no size limit for internet mail. I have sent uuecoded files that were up to 900K+. Jim ======================== InfoXpress 01.01.00 OS-9/6809 ====================== | Narnia BBS: 11pm-7am PDT serving CoCo OS-9 users ----|---- StG network: sysop@Narnia "Exclusively OS-9" | Delphi: JEVestal@delphi.com Marysville, CA InterNet: JEVestal@narnia.wa.com | or : JEVestal@citrus.sac.ca.us (916) 743-2617 Voice: 7am-11pm PDT :1 Corinthians 1:18 & Romans 1:16 ============================================================================= Jim Vestal: Assistant editor of The International OS-9 Underground, "Magazine dedicated to OS-9/OSK Users Everywhere -*- 89203 9-AUG 22:03 General Information RE: File xfer (Re: Msg 89165) From: SAUSAGESAM To: TIMKIENTZLE (NR) I tried regular Kermit on a friends IBM machine when I was logged in at 14.4k baud through the internet (telnet).. I was only getting 100 CPS!! Does delphi have windowing kermit? -*- 89213 10-AUG 20:25 General Information RE: File xfer (Re: Msg 89203) From: JEJONES To: SAUSAGESAM > I tried regular Kermit on a friends IBM machine when I was logged in at > 14.4k baud through the internet (telnet).. I was only getting 100 CPS!! > Does delphi have windowing kermit? Nope, and despite Kermit having had sliding windows for around eight years, Delphi hasn't upgraded their Kermit, nor do they apparently have any plans to do so--though IMHO anyone with an opinion on the matter should send email to SERVICE and express his or her opinion. Opinions herein are solely those of their respective authors. Clipper Chip: Big Brother Inside -*- End of Thread. -*- 89167 8-AUG 04:28 General Information RE: Review of Microsoft Windows 4.0 'lo folks, just dropped by to see if OS9 was still active. > > I see Greg is here & Marty. Reminders of old times way back when. Hi Bill, it's been a long time. I was on GEnie back where you were in charge of the Tandy CoCo/OS-9 sigs. Jim Vestal ======================== InfoXpress 01.01.00 OS-9/6809 ====================== | Narnia BBS: 11pm-7am PDT serving CoCo OS-9 users ----|---- StG network: sysop@Narnia "Exclusively OS-9" | Delphi: JEVestal@delphi.com Marysville, CA InterNet: JEVestal@narnia.wa.com | or : JEVestal@citrus.sac.ca.us (916) 743-2617 Voice: 7am-11pm PDT :1 Corinthians 1:18 & Romans 1:16 ============================================================================= Jim Vestal: Assistant editor of The International OS-9 Underground, "Magazine dedicated to OS-9/OSK Users Everywhere -*- 89208 10-AUG 03:24 General Information RE: Review of Microsoft Windows 4.0 -*- 89242 12-AUG 05:10 General Information RE: Review of Microsoft Windows 4.0 ) who says that over the long term, it'll be the future of OS9. -*- 89259 13-AUG 06:36 General Information RE: Review of Microsoft Windows 4.0 ....Dennis -*- 89260 13-AUG 08:42 General Information RE: Review of Microsoft Windows 4.0 -*- End of Thread. -*- 89168 8-AUG 04:29 General Information RE: New Conference(Ideas Welcome) (Re: Msg 89115) From: JEVESTAL To: CPERRAULT > >>I would be interested, but Sunday night is not my best > night. How about a Monday or Wednesday night conf?<< > > I'm willing to switch to either Monday at 10:00 or Wednseday > at 9:00 if you all are. The only catch for me is, depending on > what happens at work in the next two or three months, I might have > to switch from Monday to Tuesday. > Everyone, let me know what the best times are for you so I > can figure out a good time. I'm trying to make it so I'm not up too > late on work nights. Anytime is fin with me, remember tht I'm on the Left Coast and can't call Delphi until 6pm, the later is usually the better, probably Monday or Wednesday nights. Jim ======================== InfoXpress 01.01.00 OS-9/6809 ====================== | Narnia BBS: 11pm-7am PDT serving CoCo OS-9 users ----|---- StG network: sysop@Narnia "Exclusively OS-9" | Delphi: JEVestal@delphi.com Marysville, CA InterNet: JEVestal@narnia.wa.com | or : JEVestal@citrus.sac.ca.us (916) 743-2617 Voice: 7am-11pm PDT :1 Corinthians 1:18 & Romans 1:16 ============================================================================= Jim Vestal: Assistant editor of The International OS-9 Underground, "Magazine dedicated to OS-9/OSK Users Everywhere -*- 89218 10-AUG 22:18 General Information RE: New Conference(Ideas Welcome) (Re: Msg 89168) From: CPERRAULT To: JEVESTAL (NR) >>Anytime is fine with me, remember that I'm on the Left Coast and can't call Delphi until 6pm, the later is usually the better, probably Monday or Wednesday nights.<< Ok, how's about Monday at 10:00 pm? The time difference between the coasts is a big pain, one of the reasons I liked Sunday. You don't have to worry about what time you come on during the weekends. I guess we could start out at the 10:00 pm slot, and if that doesn't work out, we can start a half hour or hour later and see if that makes a difference. So far here's what I have planned for those interested. It will be one conference, similar to Boisy's but with more of slant towards OS-9 level II and general Coco stuff. The topics will vary widely. I'd like to have some devoted to programming related stuff, as well as interviews/discussions with Vendors and other influencial people in the community regarding their products and services. It would also be nice to have some nights devoted to software programs new and old, just to cover them since there is a lot of Coco software out there that is almost unheard of for some reason. Oh yeah, OS-9 in General will also be covered in many ways :-) Hopefully we'll start getting a big turnout for these after they start, and maybe then we'll be able to start spinoff conferences dedicated to topics that are overly popular. See Ya >Chris< -*- 89230 11-AUG 11:35 General Information RE: New Conference(Ideas Welcome) (Re: Msg 89218) From: MROWEN01 To: CPERRAULT A Coco Level II conference sounds great! Maybe you can discuss some basics of OS-9 users like me who have not traditionaly understood the details of system modules and how they relate. I'm kind of late in the game when it comes to OS-9. I would like to eventually write some programs but It's very difficult to get any real help with the basics. Most good books on the subject are out of print. I would like at least one conference time to discuss the ins and outs of building new boot disks. I pull my hair out because I have no idea when I might be creating the BLOB problem or going over the memory limit for the boot file. BOOT FAILED doesn't give much detail! I also can't get anyone to explain the mfree command in detail. The manual is to vaugue. I don't know how many users are in this catagory. This conference is something I need to hear. I've sat in on others in the past, but they're usually over my head. I won't ever be able to contribute to the OS-9 community if I can't get the basics down. Understanding Level II will allow me to prepare for the OSK environment that someday I'll enter. Mondays work fine for me BTW. I'll be watching for your first conference. Thanks Mike Rowen -*- 89251 12-AUG 21:44 General Information RE: New Conference(Ideas Welcome) (Re: Msg 89230) From: CPERRAULT To: MROWEN01 >>Maybe you can discuss some basics of OS-9 users like me who have not traditionaly understood the details of system modules and how they relate.<< Well, keep in mind I'm not a real guru myself, and my knowledge is limited compared to many others, but I am hoping some of those in the know will also be at the conferences, and perhaps schedual some people to appear on nights to talk about certain topics. I should be able to be of help with your boot problems as well as any beginner/startup information, as I've been through that battlefield before, and on the good side have gained some knowledge from it. The opening conference is not going to be limited to any one topic, and will basically be a laid back/informal conference to get started, so bring your questions about the boot problems and whatever else. I'll see if I can help you out with that. Also, I remember you posting something about it recently when I really didn't get a chance to get back to it. Can you point me to the message number so I can reread it? I can't remember exactly what the problem was. Btw, I STRONGLY encourage anyone with boot problems, or questions about their boot files to have the utility 'Smap' handy. It is in the utility database here as part of a 4 or 5 utility package, of which I forget the name of the whole package, but if you sea for it under the keywords of either Smap or Kdarling, it should lead you to it. You should have these programs handy in your cmds directory no matter what, but Smap is especially usefull in figuring out if your OS9Boot file is taking up to much system memory, which is a common cause of post boot trouble. Btw, I'll officially post the first conference and all details to the conferences real soon. Btw, if there are any vendors who are interested in schedualing a conference to announce any new products or discuss any existing products, leave me some email so I can schedual ya'. The same goes for User group representatives, publishers, or anyone else with a project they want to discuss. As I said, to start, this conference will cover a pretty broad area, and we can just let things evolve from there. >Chris< -*- 89271 13-AUG 23:30 General Information RE: New Conference(Ideas Welcome) (Re: Msg 89251) From: MROWEN01 To: CPERRAULT (NR) I sat in on the OS-9 live conf about data modules. Some info on how to do these under level II will be posted soon. We should encourage, and I do HERE encourage, anyone interested in OS-9 to sit in on the conferences whether they are OSK or Level II. Though the form may be different the function is the same. I don't think this info would have been posted if I hadn't represented the Level II users in the OS-9 Live conf. The OSK users usually have a level II back ground and are very helpful as well. I am certainly hungry for some good OS-9 knowledge. Between these two confs I hope to gain some useful knowledge. I'm anxious for your conf to begin. I appreciate you taking the time to organize this for all level II users. -End of Soapbox ;) Mike -*- End of Thread. -*- 89174 8-AUG 19:48 OSK Applications RE: many (Re: Msg 89108) From: NIMITZ To: HAWKSOFT I beleive that Ray is prepared to handle both formats. Ray will also, when we get schematics available, handle hardware repairs on MM/1's in a manner similar to Mark Griffiths company. Ray can be reached at Patterson Electronics, PO Box 386, Mountain View, AR 72560. Phone is (501) 746-4747. He was going up to Mark's this weekend to see how much of Marks stock he could buy, but his car repairs did not get completed! David -*- 89176 8-AUG 20:00 General Information RE: OS-9 Patches for the Coco III (Re: Msg 89104) From: DSRTFOX To: ISC I use the Disto SCII with 4-n-1 with Ultimaterm but have no problems with it. When I d/l to disk, it usually WON'T go to disk the first time, but does every other. Strange bug, but did it with my HDS controller also. Like you, I like the clock, especially with EADOS#!!! (# should be 3!) I have a 486/50 at home, 486SX/25 at work. You should have looked at the Apple PowerMacs! But you probably got a better deal on the Intel box. -*- 89183 8-AUG 22:22 General Information RE: OS-9 Patches for the Coco III (Re: Msg 89176) From: ISC To: DSRTFOX Frank, I haven't ruled out a PowerMac. I have a 30-day money back guarantee on the Intel box, and, if there are any quirks at all, back it goes. Bill -*- 89193 9-AUG 01:42 General Information RE: OS-9 Patches for the Coco III (Re: Msg 89183) From: JOELHEGBERG To: ISC Bill, > I haven't ruled out a PowerMac. I have a 30-day money back guarantee > on the Intel box, and, if there are any quirks at all, back it goes. Take it back... I won't allow an Intel chip in my house. The PowerMacs are quite nice. (I have an '040 Mac, myself.) ======================================================================= = Joel Mathew Hegberg M.O.T.D. Editor = = (JoelHegberg@delphi.com) 68'micros Columnist = = (JHegberg@aol.com) Sub-Etha Software Programmer = ======================================================================= -*- 89199 9-AUG 18:18 General Information RE: OS-9 Patches for the Coco III (Re: Msg 89193) From: ISC To: JOELHEGBERG Joel, The Intel box companies are worried a lot about the PowerMac, and, thus, they are cutting prices to the bone. I got a lot of system for a little money, including tape backup and sound! Bill -*- 89202 9-AUG 21:28 General Information RE: OS-9 Patches for the Coco III (Re: Msg 89199) From: JOELHEGBERG To: ISC Bill, > The Intel box companies are worried a lot about the PowerMac, and, thus, > they are cutting prices to the bone. I got a lot of system for a little > money, including tape backup and sound! That is a nice side-advantage! :) ======================================================================= = Joel Mathew Hegberg M.O.T.D. Editor = = (JoelHegberg@delphi.com) 68'micros Columnist = = (JHegberg@aol.com) Sub-Etha Software Programmer = ======================================================================= -*- 89211 10-AUG 10:51 General Information RE: OS-9 Patches for the Coco III (Re: Msg 89130) From: MIKE_GUZZI To: DBREEDING yeah, i see the same problem, even the high-end msdos machines just don't cut it for multitasking. maybe once osk has enough software ill switch over, but for now sticking wihth the coco3 is my best bet -*- 89266 13-AUG 15:11 General Information RE: OS-9 Patches for the Coco III (Re: Msg 89211) From: DBREEDING To: MIKE_GUZZI (NR) > maybe once osk has enough software ill switch > over, but for now sticking wihth the coco3 is my best bet There's getting to be some pretty good software out for OSK now. I've not purchased a lot yet, have "ix" on order, will be getting text software soon, not ordered yet, probably go with "ved". I download "QWK" packets from my local BBS... I have one for the CoCo - "scribe". Also got The "GNU" package ("ATP") here for my OSK machine. The OSK program has more features (a couple missing, though); I use the OSK system here due to speed in going through the messages. At this time, I depend more on my CoCo for most telecom purposes (especially till "ix" comes in). At this time, I don't have a really superb general- purpose telecom program for my System 5. I understand one is due to come out shortly, and I understand that OSTerm has been ported to the MM/1. There's still plenty of life left in the CoCo, and I hope to keep mine set up for some time. -- David Breeding -- CompuServe : 72330,2051 Delphi : DBREEDING *** Sent via CoCo-InfoXpress V1.01 *** ^^^^ ^^^^^^^^^^ -*- End of Thread. -*- 89182 8-AUG 22:04 General Information replies From: CPERRAULT To: ALL This is just a note to let everyone know, that my replies my take a little longer. I'm having trouble with vprint formatting my offline replies, and if I don't figure it out soon, I'll leave Bob some email about it. See Yya >Chris< -*- 89189 8-AUG 22:30 General Information Glenside C.C. From: CHARLESAM To: ALL Last May I joined the Glenside Coco club while at the Fest. Since then I haven't received any mailings at all. If anyone here is a member of that club, could you check to see that they have my address. As follows; Charles Marlow 326 N. Boston Ave, N. Massapequa, N.Y. 11758 I appreciate any help I get in straightening out this matter. Thanx Charlie -*- 89191 8-AUG 23:42 General Information RE: Glenside C.C. (Re: Msg 89189) From: MITHELEN To: CHARLESAM You message has been forwarded to Glensides president, Brian Schubring (THESCHU) -*- 89204 9-AUG 22:03 General Information RE: Glenside C.C. (Re: Msg 89191) From: CHARLESAM To: MITHELEN Thanx Paul, probably just a mislayed address. Charlie -*- 89261 13-AUG 13:21 General Information RE: Glenside C.C. (Re: Msg 89204) From: PHXKEN To: CHARLESAM (NR) They must have mis-layed my address too and I have been a member since 1991 Atlanta Fest. Actually, I am assumming that someone is ill and that a newsletter will be out soon. -*- 89263 13-AUG 14:46 General Information RE: Glenside C.C. (Re: Msg 89261) From: MITHELEN To: PHXKEN (NR) From what I took in the last meeting (last Thurs) The Editor is a bit behind schedual, and there has been no issue released since the one that was available at the Fest... Hopefully the delay will be corrected soon... -*- End of Thread. -*- 89194 9-AUG 01:55 Applications (6809) Targa converter From: MARKCARLSON To: ALL Does anyone know of a utility to convert targa (.tga) files to .gif or .vef that runs under os-9 or osk. - MARK - -*- 89196 9-AUG 08:40 General Information error 202 From: DONALDS To: ALL I have run into a problem of getting error 202 while using dynacalc. I use a disto super controller II, 4n1, 2meg, cc3/6309 and powerboost. ysten will either lockup or it will crash or return ' polling table full' I ts being lost but I am not sure. Can anyone help with a cure? Don -*- 89197 9-AUG 18:07 General Information RE: error 202 (Re: Msg 89196) From: BOISY To: DONALDS (NR) You need to INIZ your floppy device (i.e. iniz /d0). You should probably put this in your startup file. Once this is done, you won't see any more problems with error 202's etc. -*- 89265 13-AUG 15:09 General Information RE: error 202 (Re: Msg 89196) From: DBREEDING To: DONALDS (NR) > I have run into a problem of getting error 202 while using dynacalc. > I use a disto super controller II, 4n1, 2meg, cc3/6309 and powerboost. > ysten will either lockup or it will crash or return ' polling table full' > Its being lost but I am not sure. > Can anyone help with a cure? BOISY gave you a solution.. There's also a patch for the Disto CC3Disk.. Should be available here. The original didn't remove the Interrupt from the polling table during a TERMination, thus soon filling up the Polling table. Either fix should work. -- David Breeding -- CompuServe : 72330,2051 Delphi : DBREEDING *** Sent via CoCo-InfoXpress V1.01 *** ^^^^ ^^^^^^^^^^ -*- End of Thread. -*- 89201 9-AUG 20:34 General Information Vprint working(My fault...Again) From: CPERRAULT To: ALL Ok, you will all be blessed with my regular replies as usual. I got Vprint working again. The big bug???... I was using the wrong Init file. For you Vprint users/fans like myself, I was using the init file for outputting to the graphics screen(vpt..scr) when I should have been using vpt..txt(which is the counterpart, for the text screen display). It gave me some rather bizaar output in my file. You need to see it to really appreciate it. >Chris< -*- 89205 9-AUG 22:30 General Information Atlanta Fest From: CHARLESAM To: ALL Can anyone tell me who I can contact for the upcoming Atlanta Fest? And what are the dates? Thanx Charlie -*- 89207 9-AUG 23:37 General Information RE: Atlanta Fest (Re: Msg 89205) From: REVKAK To: CHARLESAM According to a flyer I got at Chicago, Atlanta will be October 1 & 2. The only number given is the Atlanta Computer Society BBS: 404/636-2991. Are you planning to go. I am seriously considering going. Let me know and maybe we can get a convoy of people going. Best wishes, Keith -*- 89221 10-AUG 23:42 General Information RE: Atlanta Fest (Re: Msg 89207) From: CHARLESAM To: REVKAK Sounds like a good idea Keith. I'm going on vacation that month but not till the 2nd week. That leaves that weekend open. Lets follow through on this. ATTENTION, any New York Metropolitan Area residents who wish to get together for the trip to the Atlanta Coco Fest, please contact Charlesam or Revkak via E-mail. Thanx Charlie. I quess that should do it. I'm going to start saving up now. I'll be in touch, and you can call me anytime after 10pm. Later C.M. -*- 89248 12-AUG 20:16 General Information RE: Atlanta Fest (Re: Msg 89221) From: MITHELEN To: CHARLESAM (NR) Hope to see ya at there in atlanta... What your planning on is just what the Texas croud did to get to the Chicago Fest this spring... put together a caravan of people, and even pick up some people on the way. They rented a full sized van, and had at least 6 people in it, plus all their gear. It worked out pretty good for all of them. It is a great way to get people to a show that might not normally go if thay had to drive themselfs. (personally, I LOVE to drive...) Hope to see ya all there... I got to start saveing $$$ myself, instead of buying all kinds of new upgrades for my BBS... -- Paul Jerkatis - SandV BBS (708)352-0948: Chicago Area OS-9 Users Group UUCP: amiserv.xnet.com!vpnet!sandv!mithelen ...or... mithelen@sandv.chi.il.us Internet: MITHELEN@Delphi.com -*- End of Thread. -*- 89206 9-AUG 22:56 General Information CD-i Update From: BOISY To: ALL Time for another CD-i update... I picked up the Digital Video Cartridge today, along with Dragon's Lair (remember the old coin-op?) and The Firm. Installing the cartridge was easy. All I had to do was pop the slim cover from the back of the player, insert the cartridge, and give it a firm push so that the connector made contact. That was it. I turned on the player... same as usual. Nothing showed up to indicate I had the new full motion video cartridge installed. I slipped in Dragon's Lair.... TOTALLY AWESOME! Just as I remembered it! The full motion video is sweet, and the sound is superb on my stereo system. Except instead of standing up at a machine, throwing quarters in a slot, I can kick back on the sofa and play for free! After playing with that game for a while, I inserted Disc One of "The Firm" (it's a 3 CD set). Boy, oh boy! The video looks just as good as a VCR, if not better, and the sound is crisp! While the movie is playing, you can press one of the action buttons, and a small menu bar comes up at the bottom. From there you can use the mouse to pause (and we're talking crystal clear pausing here folks, picture perfect), rewind, fast forward and set volume up or down as needed. Rewind isn't the same as on your VCR. It seems to send out a picture every in increments of 10 to 15 seconds, which increases the longer you have it rewinding or fast forwarding. Slow motion is fantastic! None of this jerky stuff like a VCR. And the slow motion speed is adjustable. And of course, this is all under OS-9. That's the amazing part... all of this software is written under OS-9. -- Boisy G. Pitre__ __ __ Delphi: BOISY |_ _| \ \/ / CompuServe: 74464,3005 I use... _| |_ > < Internet: boisy@os9er.waukee.ia.us |_____|NFO/_/\_\PRESS 1.2.0 OS-9 -- King of Operating Systems -*- 89220 10-AUG 23:19 General Information RE: CD-i Update (Re: Msg 89206) From: JOHNBAER To: BOISY Hello Boisy! > ... While the movie is playing, > you can press one of the action buttons, and a small menu bar comes up at > the bottom. From there you can use the mouse to pause (and we're talking > crystal clear pausing here folks, picture perfect)... Did you try freeze frame with a move running ? It's really different! The picture is a screen dump AND the CD keeps running the sound track! When you un-freeze, the TV screen is updated to where the sound track is at, at that instant. Try that with a VCR . -- John - < Posted with Ved 2.3.1 & IX 1.2.0 > -*- 89229 11-AUG 05:00 General Information RE: CD-i Update (Re: Msg 89206) From: MREGC To: BOISY > The video looks just as good as a VCR, if not better, and the sound is > crisp! I have seen one where the mpeg compression is noticeable, but I have Star Trek VI and The Hunt for Red October, and they both look perfect too. > And of course, this is all under OS-9. That's the amazing part... all of > this software is written under OS-9. Yeah, I always make sure to point out to people that its just an MM/1 with an extra VSC chip running those titles. Of course, when I really think about that it kind of depresses me when I compare CD-i stuff with what I'm working on for the MM/1! :) ..Eric... -*- 89245 12-AUG 06:32 General Information RE: CD-i Update (Re: Msg 89220) From: BOISY To: JOHNBAER > Did you try freeze frame with a move running ? It's really different! > The picture is a screen dump AND the CD keeps running the sound track! > When you un-freeze, the TV screen is updated to where the sound track > is at, at that instant. Try that with a VCR . Yeah, I tried that. I wonder what that's for. To bypass objectionable pictures perhaps? -- Boisy G. Pitre__ __ __ Delphi: BOISY |_ _| \ \/ / CompuServe: 74464,3005 I use... _| |_ > < Internet: boisy@os9er.waukee.ia.us |_____|NFO/_/\_\PRESS 1.2.0 OS-9 -- King of Operating Systems -*- 89254 12-AUG 23:00 General Information RE: CD-i Update (Re: Msg 89245) From: JOHNBAER To: BOISY > Yeah, I tried that. I wonder what that's for. To bypass objectionable > pictures perhaps? How about, so you can realy see a fast action `shot' without all that stoping, rewinding, playback stuff that you have to do with a vcr..? At least you get a clean picture.. unlike a freeze frame on the vcr. -- John - < Posted with Ved 2.3.1 & IX 1.2.0 > -*- 89257 13-AUG 04:12 General Information RE: CD-i Update (Re: Msg 89245) From: MDALENE To: BOISY >Yeah, I tried that. I wonder what that's for. To bypass objectionable >pictures perhaps? either that or, for someone to take a camera and take snapshots of the screen while still following the movie ;) Michele Marie Dalene -*- End of Thread. -*- 89209 10-AUG 10:50 Telecom (6809) RE: Need more speed! (Re: Msg 89089) From: MIKE_GUZZI To: CHARLESAM CoCo3, 1 meg, COMM-4 4 serial ports (6551 chips used) Nitros-9 1.16 i have an IRQ coming from the comm-4 directly into the cpu (irq hack) two US robotics sportster 14400 modems Mike -*- 89210 10-AUG 10:50 Telecom (6809) RE: Need more speed! (Re: Msg 89093) From: MIKE_GUZZI To: MMCCLELLAND i forget who took over for nitros-9 but im sure it will be posted here when the new version is ready. I am using a COMM-4 which is 4 serial ports in one pak. It uses 6551 chips like the tandy one -*- 89215 10-AUG 21:36 Telecom (6809) RE: Need more speed! (Re: Msg 89210) From: DSRTFOX To: MIKE_GUZZI Northern Xposure took over NitrOS-9 distribution. -*- 89222 10-AUG 23:56 Telecom (6809) RE: Need more speed! (Re: Msg 89209) From: CHARLESAM To: MIKE_GUZZI Geez Mike, sounds like a pretty sophisticated setup. I'm not familiar with Comm-4. I'm getting a Disto 4in1 to hook to my SC-II. Right now I have a mpi with Tandy Rs232pak. I'm just wondering what else I'll need besides the hi speed modem. Now I'm going to ask what may be a really dumb question to someone who knows about the internals of the coco. Once I mate the 4in1 to my SC-II, can I still use that controller with a mpi? I'd like to so I could maybe use one of the now freed mpi slots for a serial mouse, and/or parallel printer(2nd). One last question, what does a Robotics sportster 14400 modem go for($$). Thanx For getting back to me. Charlie -*- 89223 11-AUG 00:05 Telecom (6809) RE: Need more speed! (Re: Msg 89210) From: CHARLESAM To: MIKE_GUZZI After reading this message, it becomes cleared what a comm-4 is about. Can you run simultaneous devices on it, like 2 modems at the same time? Where does one get this piece of hardware? Again thanx Charlie. -*- 89225 11-AUG 03:22 Telecom (6809) RE: Need more speed! (Re: Msg 89222) From: SAUSAGESAM To: CHARLESAM Hi .. I just bught my 14.4k UD Robotics sportster modem a couple weeks ago for $149.. (Well actually it was abut a month ago when I bought it). -*- 89231 11-AUG 18:17 Telecom (6809) RE: Need more speed! (Re: Msg 89222) From: MIKE_GUZZI To: CHARLESAM I would assume you could use the disto 4-in-1 in the MPI, but someone who owns one could answer that for sure. Well you have most of what you need. You will need to do some sort of IRQ hack to the pak to get the speed, replace the clock module with a better one. Nitros-9 is defintely a big help (i couldn't get 9600 baud without it) Sportsster modems run for about $125 nowadays. Mike -*- 89232 11-AUG 18:18 Telecom (6809) RE: Need more speed! (Re: Msg 89223) From: MIKE_GUZZI To: CHARLESAM Yes i can run all 4 serial ports at the same time if i wish. it has a circuit inside to avoid clashing IRQ's so all of them go through. Its no longer made, but you can make a dual version by modifing another rs232 pak to address differently, that will give you 2 ports. -*- 89234 11-AUG 21:08 Telecom (6809) RE: Need more speed! (Re: Msg 89223) From: REVKAK To: CHARLESAM I don't know how familiar you are with the 4 in 1, but it does not have all of the hardware lines that you probably need for 9600 speed. There are text files in the general database describing how to modify it. If you need help with the 4 in 1, I run mine without a MPI and it does great and it already has a parallel port built in. Give me a call and we can work on it. Talk with you later, Keith -*- 89236 11-AUG 23:04 Telecom (6809) RE: Need more speed! (Re: Msg 89225) From: CHARLESAM To: SAUSAGESAM I quess I could manage that(149). Where did you purchase it? Thanx Charlie -*- 89237 11-AUG 23:06 Telecom (6809) RE: Need more speed! (Re: Msg 89231) From: CHARLESAM To: MIKE_GUZZI (NR) Thanx Mike, once I gather the hardware, I'll get back here for the hack. I'm running Nitros-9 so thats no problem. Charlie -*- 89238 11-AUG 23:09 Telecom (6809) RE: Need more speed! (Re: Msg 89232) From: CHARLESAM To: MIKE_GUZZI (NR) For now I'll settle for one that handles the 9600 that delphi offers. I'm not terrible good at hardware hacking. Thanx again Charlie -*- 89239 11-AUG 23:11 Telecom (6809) RE: Need more speed! (Re: Msg 89234) From: CHARLESAM To: REVKAK I will definitely take you up on your offer. Also, looking forward now to Atlanta. Start saving your pennies. Charlie -*- 89240 11-AUG 23:51 Telecom (6809) RE: Need more speed! (Re: Msg 89236) From: SAUSAGESAM To: CHARLESAM (NR) Got it at Microcenter... -*- End of Thread. -*- 89216 10-AUG 21:38 General Information Info Xpress From: DSRTFOX To: ALL Since Mark Griffith left, where can a copy of Info Xpress for the CoCo be purchased? Doesn't it allow downloading messages and replying off-line? A fellow in Australia calls in here occasionally and could REALLY use it if it does!! Please send the address where it can be bought to COCOLINK here on delphi!!! -*- 89217 10-AUG 22:17 General Information RE: Info Xpress (Re: Msg 89216) From: CPERRAULT To: DSRTFOX (NR) Frank, send email to Bill Dickhaus(the author) regarding Infoexpress. I think he is gonna sell it independently, unless he has another vendor doing the marketing. His username name is(easy enough) Billdickhaus See Ya >Chris< -*- 89267 13-AUG 15:11 General Information RE: Info Xpress (Re: Msg 89216) From: DBREEDING To: DSRTFOX (NR) > Since Mark Griffith left, where can a copy of Info Xpress for the CoCo be > purchased? I think Mark is still selling "ix". I emailed him over on CIS and he gave me prices etc, and from the content of his reply, I assumed this... at any rate, I sent him a check for my copy. -- David Breeding -- CompuServe : 72330,2051 Delphi : DBREEDING *** Sent via CoCo-InfoXpress V1.01 *** ^^^^ ^^^^^^^^^^ -*- End of Thread. -*- 89219 10-AUG 23:10 General Information Monitor specs From: MRGOOD To: ALL Can anyone give me the specs for a Mitsubishi Model C6922PK monitor? Reason is, I know someone who is selling one and I'd like to know if it is usable on my MM1 (i.e., 15.75 Khz horizontal sync). Alternatively, is there an info file in existence that gives specs for monitors? (I know there's one for hard disks). Hugo -*- 89226 11-AUG 03:36 General Information AD&D Magazine From: PUTYTHECAT To: ALL Hey everybody, I'm thinking about putting together a on-line role-playing magazine centered around AD&D. What I would like to do is collect submissions from various people containing new spells, monsters, magical items, stories, etc. similar to "Dragon" or "White Dwarf". Is anybody interested?????? The magazine would contain no actual programs so it could be used by everyone of all types of computers although I would have to work up some kind of format for each type as to make it easy to read (e.g. AmigaGuide for Amigas, Hypercard for Macs etc.) Any types of articles or submissions complete and prefessional or otherwise would be accepted (with some editing) and EMailed out to a bunch of people. (I would keep a list of subscribers Internet addresses). Price of the magazine would be 1 submission for a lifetime of issues. Almost everyone has a few extra creations lying around. If you are interested in such a venture, then leave me a message in my mailbox. Internet address is PutytheCat@Delphi.com Please state the words "Magazine info" as the subject. David Manvell 14811 Bayview Drive Woodbridge, VA 22191-3209 p.s. Ideas and comments would be greatly appreciated! -*- 89227 11-AUG 03:41 General Information OS-9 Live! meeting From: JOELHEGBERG To: ALL This Saturday (August 13th), the next OS-9 Live! meeting will be held right here at 10pm Eastern time. The topic this month is "Using OS-9 Pipes and Data Modules", and will be hosted by Boisy G. Pitre and Joel Mathew Hegberg. This is a great opportunity for novice OS-9 programmers to get some of their pressing questions answered, or just exposed to these two very interesting topics. The "live" format seems to work very well, and everyone has a great time. The meetings usually last about an hour. Hope to see everyone there! Best wishes, Joel Mathew Hegberg. ======================================================================= = Joel Mathew Hegberg M.O.T.D. Editor = = (JoelHegberg@delphi.com) 68'micros Columnist = = (JHegberg@aol.com) Sub-Etha Software Programmer = ======================================================================= -*- 89252 12-AUG 21:44 General Information RE: OS-9 Live! meeting (Re: Msg 89227) From: CPERRAULT To: JOELHEGBERG re:OS-9 Live! I'll definately be there for this one. Unless something drastic happens of course... :-) >Chris< -*- End of Thread. -*- 89235 11-AUG 22:20 OSK Applications New Upload From: VAXELF To: ALL I have upload a program called "xlate.lzh" This is a 6809 to 68000/20 assembly code translater. John D. -*- 89241 12-AUG 04:17 System Modules (6809) scsi in Burke and Burke with Scsisys10 From: MDALENE To: ALL I have a weird question, I know I should ask Chris burke this but.... Since he does not write scsisys and this also applies to that author here is my question I found a great deal on a Maxtor 290MB 12ms SCSI HD. and a 8 bit scsi card. I was going to buy it for my xt but.... I think Cecilia (My coco 3) would make better use of it. I was going to install it externally so it could plug into the card via the 25pin scsi external connector. First of all does Scsisys allow a user to set the port address easily along with the slot selection? B&B needs BOTH! and also... would the thing work The card I am thinking of ordering uas a scsi driver you load from Disk. I deliberatly said "NO" to the HD only version as it only allowd two HD devices and did not even alllow Tape or CD-rom. (When I buy cards, I use device drivers, just like on my Coco, I eat TPA (cp/m speak) but then upgrading is easier. Does Scsi sys 1.0 have a certain register demand? Does it nessarly need a certain brand of Scsi chip? or if I had that info would the author prepare me a version for testing? If it does not... I have a hungry Xt waiting... but The case looks like it matches the coco 3 Much better. I was going to lay out the Scsi HD to use 30 Meg partitions on the IBM. Give the old St-225 (20 MEG! Geez! Cecilia only fills hers half way full! and it is the same size but newer Kalok 320!) Sorry this is so long but I really think that knowing this info could give us with the B&B system a second chance to go SCSI. I want to use SCSI as the MFM hardware is not easily found new and I do not want to have to worry if the HD croaks and I got an old outdated interface that has no support. I think Chris Burke did mention that if the card selected does not use IRQ's it may work. I do not know if it does or not but My HD on my XT does have an IRQ address and it works fine on my Coco 3. Michele Marie Dalene -*- 89249 12-AUG 20:43 General Information Atlanta Fest From: MRUPGRADE To: DSRTFOX (NR) Well, Frank,, I jumped on the TWA 2 fer 1 deal (closes midnight tonight). So me'n my wife will be flying in Fri afternoon. I'm planing on staating til Tue,, to catch soem of theh great city. I'll probably give my wife 50 bucks,, and let her go onna shopping spree (hehe). Naw,, really I'd like to see some of Atlanta. Since I'm spen ding enough bucks to get there. It does sound like a nice town. . (~~~~~~~~~~~~))) (---- -----))) l l l\\\\ l l l~~~~ il l l l hen l l l erry g \\\\\\\ ~~~~~~~ -*- 89253 12-AUG 22:49 General Information RE: Atlanta Fest (Re: Msg 89249) From: BOISY To: MRUPGRADE I took advantage of the TWA deal too. $170 round trip from Des Moines to Atlanta is an outstanding price. So I might as well ask while I'm on the subject: will there be anyone arriving at Atlanta airport around 1:15pm Friday afternoon? James Jones and I could use a ride to the Holiday Inn. -*- End of Thread. -*- 89250 12-AUG 20:47 Applications (6809) New Software Announcement From: MRUPGRADE To: ALL ** New software Announcement ** ** HOME-PAC OS - Home Manager ** Developed by Terry Simons with over six years of upgrading the RSDOS Version, this became a very powerful set of software. Basically it is a check program that turns into a home accountant. Suitable to keep books for personal, business, and club activities. A strong point thoroughout this package it's personalization features. Which makes many entries a one key (macro) or default entry. John Hoit (CoCo user gone to PC in '93) said, "I have yet to find a program that inputs and handles data with the ease of Home-Pac". With a mailer, that would will a from a Christmas card list to publishers data base. Many have stated it was unrivaled for CoCo RSDOS Software of it's kind. Now under OS-9 Chris Dekker has incorprated still more features. And through the use of windows an increased processing speed, "Home-Pac OS" now rivals anything avalaible on the CoCo. 1. All programs menu enter tied. 2. Handles two seperate accounts from one menu. 2. Full 80 column displays, giving an over view. 4. Creditcard & Check balances constant on screen. 5. Generally does things with ease, taking the "work" out of "Bookwork". 6. With an equally powerful Mailer. 7. Plus "Disk Jacket" program to help you find your files fast. 8. And "From-Maker" for shopping lists, Scorecards, etc. 9. With INSTALL program no OS knowledge is needed. Sold for years as the best RSDOS can offer, now even better under OS-9. Requires COCO 3, 80 Column monitor, Drive, and OS Lev II. Outside MI&CC sold only by: C Dekker Software, RR#4, Centreville, NB Canada, EOJ 1OH $29.95 plus $4.00 shipping Please where you saw this. -*- 89255 13-AUG 00:23 General Information CoCo Registry From: MRUPGRADE To: ALL ** New Product Announcement & Review ** The CoCo Registry from Rick's Computer Enterprises The purpose: to give a central point of reference for all those who want to be part of the CoCo Community. . In my mail today was a package from Rick's. Opening it, I discovered a bright colored flippie. "The CoCo Registry", First issue. I poped in in the drive and typed RUN"CR. I always hafta see if it's also ADOS compatible,,, sure nuff it is. It comes on screen with a template format, and says "one moment please". Well, it should say "several moments please", because it loads the entire data file for: Two Hundred and Sixty Two CoCo'ists. Gosh Rick,, do you do all this in 128K? May I first off say, "my hats off Rick. That's quite a piece of programming!" The template consists of various boxes or windows, displaying a column of names, a window showing the highlited persons Name, Address, Ph, etc another with an impressive list of Magazines and Groups underlining which group/mag the person supports. Another diplays sytem information of the supporter. And still another has a search/ print on various formats by your direction. Oh, yeah, it does come with printed Doc's. But it's so user friendly I didn't find a need for them. If you're asking how can you get all this on one screen? You can't, at 128 columns it's just too much. But still you can switch side to side with the arrow keys. This leaves room for overlap and still a convient very read for 128 columns. On the flipside (I did say it's a flippie, right) is a list of advertisers, each giving a discount. If you're thinking this would be good for dealers only,,, perhaps you're forgetting, there may well be a CoCo user living around the corner from you in your own town? Or several? First off: be a part of the CoCo Community. To get on the list is "free". Send a SASE to: Rick's Computer Enterprise P O Box 276 Lexington, KY 42539 He'll send you the form. The purpose is to give a central point of reference for all CoCo those who want to be part of the CoCo Community. This is bound to grow as Fests and clubs start up fuller in the fall. Their will be more issues. The Cost? Check with Rick. Like most things he offers,, it'll be a bargin. Terry Simons, Editor for The UPGRADE Diskmagazine -*- 89268 13-AUG 15:12 General Information RE: CoCo Registry (Re: Msg 89255) From: DBREEDING To: MRUPGRADE > First off: be a part of the CoCo Community. To get on the > list is "free". Send a SASE to: > Rick's Computer Enterprise P O Box 276 Lexington, KY 42539 ^^^^^^^^^ Terry, it should be "Liberty", KY. -- David Breeding -- CompuServe : 72330,2051 Delphi : DBREEDING *** Sent via CoCo-InfoXpress V1.01 *** ^^^^ ^^^^^^^^^^ -*- End of Thread. -*- 89256 13-AUG 00:25 General Information CoCo Registry From: MRUPGRADE To: ALL I forgot to mention Rick is: CFDMRICK on Delphi Terry g -*- 89258 13-AUG 05:53 General Information MM/1's Full Potential From: MREGC To: ALL With the recent conversation online here about CD-i and the titles available for it I've been thinking. As a programmer I have tapped the limits of how much speed I can get out of a 68070 equipped MM/1 using C to do full-screen scrolling while programming "by the rules". Yet when I look at some of the titles available on CD-i that do full-screen scrolling they do it several times faster, and I'm sure CD-i programmers aren't programming in assembly. This leads me to 2 possible reasons for the performance difference, (well, 3 reasons, but the most obvious, poor programming on my part, I've ruled out since 2 other programmers whose opinion I value highly agree that the code I'm using couldn't be done any more efficiently,) first, it could be that CD-i programmers are using features of the 68070 that we aren't, or second, the extra VSC chip that CD-i has is giving them extra power to utilize. If option 1 is correct, then what are they getting out of the 68070 that we aren't? I must admit to being somewhat, if not completely ignorant of the hardware abilities that lie outside of the normal range of programming, but one thing that comes to mind is our DMA channels. Maybe I'm off on what DMA really is, but, as I understand it, aren't we using 1 DMA channel for sound and the other for SCSI device access? Is it possible for a programmer to change this setup in a program so that one channel gets used for sound and the other gets used to speed up movement of screen data to screen memory? If option 2 is correct, and the second VSC chip gives them more programming power, then the 1 VSC we have should give us SOME extra programming power. I know the VSC has a PIXAC, and its my understanding that the only thing we're using it for is the mouse pointer. Can we get access to the PIXAC from within C? Or would we have to program in assembly? Since K-Windows is using it for the mouse pointer, would accessing the PIXAC mess up K-Windows? Are there other VSC features that we aren't using or don't have access to? Whether DMA or the PIXAC is the answer to the CD-i speed difference, the reason for their underutilization on the MM/1 is tied directly to K-Windows, and how Kevin decided to use them. As much as I love K-Windows and regard Kevin Darling as a top-notch programmer, I don't think he wrote K-Windows with optimizing graphics manipulation in mind, whereas CD-i was designed with just that purpose in mind. Can we gain access to these underutilized features of the MM/1 hardware without wreaking havoc on K-Windows and remain "within the rules" of OS9? Are both of these options incorrect, and there's another reason for the performance difference? ..Eric... -*- 89262 13-AUG 13:30 General Information CD-i Update From: PHXKEN To: ALL Following Boise thread, I paid a visit to my local Service Merchandise. They see the newer Magnavox version of the CD-i machine. The clerk said that the video cartridge was not available for that machine and they had no software for the cartridge. Opposite story at Sears, no Magnavox model and no reduction in price on the Phillips model. Incredible Universe has the Phillips at $20 off and the video cartridge and many many titles. Needless to say, I am not pleased with this marketing technique. Now, I do not know if there is or is not a video cartridge for the cheaper Magnavox unit. Will keep looking. -*- 89270 13-AUG 22:50 System Modules (6809) cc3disk From: SMITHBA To: DBREEDING (NR) You mentioned in a letter about a patch for cc3disk, so it will clear it's interupt when it is done. I assume you are talking about the super controller 2 no halt drivers. that is exactly what I have been looking for. Could you tell me exactly what the name of the file is, and what topic it's under. also i'm looking for a patch to the kernal patch by bruce istead. it's supposed to recognize up to two meg, but will only recognize one meg. I had to use the original kernal, and I patched the old mega command. any help would be appreciated. Brian Smith (SMITHBA) -*- FORUM>Reply, Add, Read, "?" or Exit>