read new nonstop follow 87349 14-MAY 21:01 General Information RE: hi! (Re: Msg 87341) From: CHARLESAM To: COCOKIWI Sounds neat! I may upgrade soon, depends on what I see at the Fest. And of course $$$. I might need to send back the box so you can install that 100 ohm resistor you spoke of when last we chatted. Remember I had a problem reaching the right part of my screen with the joystick? I know you told me how to fix it but I don't recall exactly what I was suppose to do. If I do send it back, I'll pay postage both ways. Talk later.... Charlie -*- 87351 14-MAY 22:03 General Information RE: hi! (Re: Msg 87290) From: JOSEPHCHEEK To: AJMLFCO (NR) You wrote about os-9000 for intel machines -- any idea of the availability of it for other platforms? -*- 87364 15-MAY 15:06 General Information RE: hi! (Re: Msg 87343) From: PAGAN To: DBREEDING (NR) >I would think that as of this time, there might be a little more >MM/1-specific software available, but as I understand it, any text-based >software should run on any system. Unless it's hard coded for a specific terminal or console, text based software should run on just about any system. Any program that uses termcaps should run on a System IV or V because 'vgakbd' is a pretty complete implementation of vt100. There is more G-Windows software being written. Ed distributes at least four of my programs with his G-Windows packages and I'm working on some more stuff right now. Stephen (PAGAN) "Warrants? We don't need no steenking warrants" - Chicago Housing Authority -*- 87365 15-MAY 15:11 General Information RE: hi! (Re: Msg 87364) From: CPERRAULT To: PAGAN [D er' Basix and 'Gworks' packages that FHL mentioned quite a while back? >Chris< -*- End of Thread. -*- 87350 14-MAY 21:17 General Information RE: OS9000 file transfer (Re: Msg 87348) From: COLORSYSTEMS To: PHILSCHERER > Hi Zack--please forgive my ignorance, but what device descriptor shoul I > load? I have a file in the dog partition like--c:\OS9.bin and I want to > get it over into the OS9000 area. I'm just getting to use OS9000 so I'm > a little green in some of the stuff. Thanks! Everything you need to know is in the manuals. I assume you are a legal owner and do have your set of docs? Then look on page B-1 of the PC/OS-9000 Installation Instructions, there are the descriptors you need. Usually, for a file in drive C:, that would normally be "Partition #1 of physical disk C:", in which case you would load the hc1 device descriptor module. It would be file /dd/PORTS/PCAT/OBJS/hc1. To copy the file you would then do something like: $ copy /hc1/os9.bin /dd/os9.bin Does this help? ------------------------------------ Zack C Sessions "We did not inherit the Earth from our Ancestors, we borrowed it from our descendants." Ancient proverb -*- 87372 15-MAY 19:03 General Information RE: OS9000 file transfer (Re: Msg 87350) From: PHILSCHERER To: COLORSYSTEMS Hi Zack--I am a legal owner of OS9000 and I want to get rolling with a terminal. If I tried to find out how from the three nice thick manuals I have, I dont know how long it would have taken. Thanks for the direction. -*- End of Thread. -*- 87352 14-MAY 22:56 OSK Applications RE: PGP for OSK? (Re: Msg 87118) From: MREGC To: WDTV5 Gene, I regret not being around to respond to this in a more timely manner, and I'm sure the subject has been beaten to death by now, but I just have to respond to this. (I also apologize to everyone for perpetuating this discussion under an inappropriate heading and topic.) > I pay my taxes and think they should *not* be used for the latest so- > called social engineering idea, but for pay and gear for law > enforcement, and jails to put them in the first 2 times ... First let me explain my perspective. I'm a college senior majoring in psychology and minoring in sociology. In my opinion the ideology you display in the above quote is largely responsible for the continuing social problems we have in this society. As any social psychology professor or textbook would batter you unendingly with, every one of our actions is determined somewhat by who we are, and somewhat by the situation/enviornment we find ourselves in. How much weight each factor carries always has been and will always be a point of heated debate. The point, however, is nonetheless true. In solving society's ills it will be utterly necessary to deal with both the personal and social component of every problem, or else nothing will ever be gained. In laymen's terms it goes something like this: If your car's battery dies, you replace it. If the new battery dies again a month later, and every new battery after that dies after 1 month of usage, do you simply keep replacing the dead batteries every month and think that you've solved the problem? No, of course not. Probably after the first, and definitely after the second battery you research the problem, and discover something like a bad alternator as the root cause. Can you then just replace the bad alternator and leave in the dead battery? Once again of course not. You have to replace the dead battery, but once you've done that AND replaced the bad alternator the problem is solved. I believe this metaphor holds true for social problems. Yes you have to put criminals in jail, but you also HAVE TO FIX THE UNDERLYING SOCIAL PROBLEMS WHICH CREATED THE CRIMINALS IN THE FIRST PLACE or you won't make any headway and you'll just be putting more and more people behind bars forever. Unfortunately the above is something that neither staunch liberals nor staunch conservatives seem to understand. Also unfortunately, it seems that most people, including those who are in power, fit into one of those 2 half- blind categories. ..End of Sermon... ..Can the Church Say Amen?... ..Eric... -*- 87353 14-MAY 22:57 OSK Applications RE: PGP for OSK? (Re: Msg 87216) From: MREGC To: DBREEDING David, >> ... and a bunch of cops in California who got tried twice for the same >> charge (yeah, they should have been found guilty the first time, but >> they were not, and that should have been the end of it). > This is what I have said all along. They may have been guilty, but > unless ... foul play with or on the part of the jury had ocurred, that > should have been it. Okay, and in that case I say that a significant portion of the population would have had reason to believe that the United States justice system had failed them. This being the case, an uprising would have been in order for the purpose of the group establishing its own rights in the absence of any governing body capable of doing so, (and before you scoff at this idea remember the many revoultions which have taken place throughout the world and in this country throughout history.) Is this something you would have preferred? Now it is true that you can make any number of rational arguments against the idea that letting the officers go free would have constituted the obliteration of the rights of an entire race, or several races of people. However, as a student of psychology and sociology, (and a member of the race which saw this whole event as a test of their standing in American society,) I would be quick to retort that, when dealing with human beings, the objective reality of that admittedly overdramatized statement is almost if not entirely worthless. What matters with a person, or especially with a group of people, is the subjective reality that they perceive. In this particular case I, and many others, would have perceived an unchallenged not-guilty verdict as a complete breakdown of the United States justice system as it applies to people who look like me, and a revolution, (loosely translated as a riot, but one directed towards the justice and legal system,) would have been entirely justified. ..God I know I'm gonna get blasted for this... ..Oh well, bring it on... ..Eric... -*- 87354 14-MAY 22:58 OSK Applications RE: PGP for OSK? (Re: Msg 87222) From: MREGC To: MITHELEN Paul, > It takes guns outa the hands of law abideing citizens. It has no effect > on criminals. Well, if it keeps guns out of the hands of what you're calling "law abideing citizens" then its definitely keeping guns out of the hands of numerous "criminals," because in many cases they are one and the same. Why? Because 1) most in-house firearms end up killing members of the household they were originally bought to protect and 2) most murders are committed by a family member of the murdered person. (I apologize for not citing a reference here, but I sold my textbooks back to the university bookstore yesterday!) :) With this in mind, gun control could save quite a number of lives from people who were never expected to be a threat. And this was never even an argument anyone ever made for gun control! By the way, this in no way means that I'm in favor of gun control. I simply HATE seeing discussions in which one or both sides seems completely ignorant of the valid points of the other side, as there has NEVER been any argument of any importance in which both sides didn't have some valid arguments. And no, I'm not pointing a finger at you with this. Its just your message that I decided to respond to. ..Eric... -*- 87355 14-MAY 22:59 OSK Applications RE: PGP for OSK? (Re: Msg 87230) From: MREGC To: ILLUSIONIST > People should not need a reason for having or wanting any item... > I personally have no interest in guns myself, but those that do should > have the right to own any kind they please. Yes, I totally agree. We *should* have the right, (this being America and all,) to do anything so long as we don't infringe on anyone else's rights. However, I think we're experiencing the strong influence of what I like to call neo-Americans, (a category into which almost every one of us falls,) who prefer the subversion of some of (and an ever increasing number of) our rights to the risks taken when we allow freedom to run unchecked. These are the people who don't understand that freedom has a price. These are the very same people who claim to believe in the ideals of the forefathers in founding the United States, but then are willing to turn completely away from these ideas in practice. For instance, one of the original self-assigned duties of America was to "make the world safe for Democracy," an idea which most citizens would say that they believe in. However, many, if not most citizens then turn around and are against US intervention in foreign affairs for the same purpose they supposedly believe in. And, closer to home, considering the original idea behind America being the big "melting pot," why are there any such things as immigration laws, and why are (neo)Americans constantly complaining about new immigrants into this great melting pot? The answer, neo-Americans have essentially abandoned the original ideals of America, are basically content with things the way are now, and are practically willing to institute a police state to keep the status-quo. What does this have to do with the gun control discussion? Gun control is simply one of the first of a succession of infringements upon American rights that will be perpetrated not by the government, but by the American people themselves. (See also Beavis and Butthead, the 2 Live Crew, other rap and heavy metal music arguments, and in general most arguments against tv and movie violence.) Gee, how did I end up in the political philosophy forum? ..Eric... -*- 87356 14-MAY 23:01 OSK Applications RE: PGP for OSK? (Re: Msg 87239) From: MREGC To: MITHELEN Paul, > If the government is really concerned about crime, then they should > concentrate on better enforcement, and stiffer penalties. Please see my reply 87352. It applies precisely to your above quote. ..Eric... -*- 87357 14-MAY 23:04 OSK Applications RE: PGP for OSK? (Re: Msg 87240) From: MREGC To: ISC (NR) What? The voice of reason? I was beginning to think it was completely dead around here! I'm glad someone else has the ability to see out of both eyes! :) Well said, sir. ..Eric... -*- 87363 15-MAY 11:36 OSK Applications RE: PGP for OSK? (Re: Msg 87239) From: DENNYWRIGHT To: MITHELEN I agree, criminals have no reason to fear being caught these days! I think the guy in singapore got what was coming to him! If we had stiffer penalties here in the US the crime rate would be a LOT lower in my hunb le opinion. If someone steals cut off a finger and I seriously doubt he would stealagain! And I doubt if a l oops. Sorry I don't know how to use delphi's messasage editor. Anyway I think we are too leniant on criminals in this country and prisoners have too many rights! After all they wouldn't be in prison if they hadn't abused those rights and the rights of othe rs! -*- 87366 15-MAY 15:58 OSK Applications RE: PGP for OSK? (Re: Msg 87088) From: 01GEN40 To: DSRTFOX (NR) What is it, then, that is WRONG with this gov't that they cannot see how this can relatively get rid of crime. Referring to that GUN CONTROL law that is. If it worked there, it sould, in theory, work everywhere. I understand that this is what they have in Switzerland, where there is virtually no crime whatsoever. I do not know where you are at, but, out here in Cali- fornia, in the major metropolitan areas, crime is OUT OF CONTROL. You look at someone wrong and they will either pull out a gun and shoot you or they will take you to court and sue the pants off you. If some burglar breaks into your house, slips on a rug and breaks his/her back, they can sue YOU! What is this country coming to?!? I saw the perfect bumper sticker about 2 weeks ago, it said, "I love my country but I am afraid of my government." And, with that I will say, See Ya. LONG LIVE OS-9! 01GEN40@delphi.com -*- 87367 15-MAY 16:23 OSK Applications RE: PGP for OSK? (Re: Msg 87095) From: 01GEN40 To: JOHNREED (NR) John, With respect to what is happening today and with respect to whether it has little or no affect on us now, in the long run, it will have a very profound affect on our children and their children and... That is my quote for the day and I have never read it anywhere because it is from my heart. My son just turned 18 2 months ago. In retrospect, what is this world going to be like when he is my age (42)? See ya. LONG LIVE OS-9! 01GEN40@delphi.com -*- 87368 15-MAY 17:53 OSK Applications RE: PGP for OSK? (Re: Msg 87355) From: VAXELF To: MREGC Eric, Are you going to the fest this weekend. If so look me up. John D. -*- 87370 15-MAY 18:48 OSK Applications RE: PGP for OSK? (Re: Msg 87368) From: MREGC To: VAXELF (NR) John, I wanted to make it to the Fest, but the funds just wouldn't allow it. Look forward to hearing back from you guys as to how things went. ..Eric... -*- 87382 15-MAY 23:16 OSK Applications RE: PGP for OSK? (Re: Msg 87220) From: WA2EGP To: COLORSYSTEMS (NR) MY only answer to your response is to that "public opinion poll" you mentioned. All polls can be biased depending on how they took it and where they took it. I think an area of high crime might go for gun control where an area with low crime might not be so inclined. IF 10 people were polled and 2 were for gun control and 1 against (and the others don't respond) they can report that people are for gun control 2 to 1 and forget (right) to mention the others that didn't respond. Honest polls are VERY hard to take. -*- 8Applications RE: PGP for OSK? (Re: Msg 87228) From: WA2EGP To: COLORSYSTEMS (NR) > There is absolutely no way anyone can justify the recreational ownership > of assult weapons, period. What about a collector? People do collect things because they like to own a complete line of XXXX manufactorer's stuff. In ham radio you can have a linear amplifier that, if used, would be illegal because the output is above the FCC regs. But you can still have it. (Yeah, I know. You can't kill someone with a radio but I think the analogy is valid) -*- 87384 15-MAY 23:31 OSK Applications RE: PGP for OSK? (Re: Msg 87242) From: WA2EGP To: ILLUSIONIST I just heard that BB pistols have to licensed in NJ. Not having one, I don't know but 1. If it is true, well...... 2. If it is not, then there are some people out there who don't know the state law or are having trouble finding the actual written law which is down right scary! -*- 87386 1dtn E G o S?(e g832) From: WA2EGP To: MREGC Geez.....I new it would be heading toward blaming us teachers (grin). -*- 87389 15-MAY 23:45 OSK Applications RE: PGP for OSK? (Re: Msg 87353) From: WA2EGP To: MREGC That opens up another can of worms. Too bad the media bias the country on certain issues. 8 seconds of a tape and ignore the other 82 or so seconds. Sound bites during elections. (Quayle spelled potato with an "e"! But how many heard about Al and Tipper getting lost in the woods?) Florida got an easier "gun law"....there will be a blood bath down there! (Never heard of it happening. Maybe some Florida users can fill me in.) Once we HAD a news media. Now....I'm not sure what it is. -*- 87390 15-MAY 23:50 OSK Applications RE: PGP for OSK? (Re: Msg 87366) From: WA2EGP To: 01GEN40 (NR) I believe in Switzerland, everyone has a couple of years of military training which must include how to use and maintain weapons. Note, I didn't say were in the military but training. They are ready to repel an invading force. This info came from a friend of mine who spent some time there. -*- 87393 16-MAY 03:36 OSK Applications RE: PGP for OSK? (Re: Msg 87388) From: MREGC To: WA2EGP (NR) > Geez.....I new it would be heading towards blaming us teachers (grin). Yep, you can pretty much blame the Arizona State University College of Liberal Arts and Sciences for all of my sociopolitical and philosophical philosophies. Before I came to college I was so conservative it was scary! :) ..Eric... -*- 87394 16-MAY 03:42 OSK Applications RE: PGP for OSK? (Re: Msg 87389) From: MREGC To: WA2EGP (NR) > Too bad the media bias the country on certain issues. ... Once we HAD a > news media. Now....I'm not sure what it is. Yeah, the media is a problem, but unfortunately not the root problem. It is fed by, but also serves to perpetuate a more major underlying social perception problem, and all it ends up doing is churning out generation after generation of people who have no idea what reality is. ..Eric... -*- End of Thread. -*- 87359 14-MAY 23:37 General Information This is insane. From: BOISY To: ALL At the risk of sounding irate, I would admonish those who tend to go of on tirades regarding gun control, politics, laws of physics, etc. to please refrain from posting replies. I'm rather tired of coming onto the forum and reading lengthy messages about subjects which don't pertain to OS-9. Come on folks, let's drop this discussion, please? -*- 87361 15-MAY 07:55 General Information RE: This is insane. (Re: Msg 87359) From: MRUPGRADE To: BOISY Perhaps thh SYSOP here could add teh TOPIC SOAP as inmn theh RSCoCo side. This covers all unrelated chatter. Then de-selecting that topic steps you past the orations,,, on what color to paint the rug. BTW: Didi I hear right? Prez Clinton was siad to be lobbing strong to ban the guns he had approved to be shipped into the country. Sorry couldn't resist... Til then,,, Terry Simons -*- 87371 15-MAY 18:54 General Information RE: This is insane. (Re: Msg 87359) From: MREGC To: BOISY Boisy, I can understand and appreciate your disgust over the current preponderance of non-OS9 related messages here. However, I must say that I personally find it impossible to refrain from replying to what I perceive as either tremendous breakdowns in logic or gross ignorance of more than one point of view. In fact I think not responding worsens the situation by letting these people believe that there is no counter-argument to their own. Don't we have a "Soapbox" topic in the forum? Wouldn't these discussions fit under that topic, which would allow those who don't wish to read these messages to lock out that topic? ..Eric... -*- End of Thread. -*- 87360 15-MAY 05:42 General Information RE: st225 (Re: Msg 87303) From: ALWAGNER To: PHILSCHERER Phil, there is a file somewhere in the OS9 database called seagate.ar. In it is all you could ever want to know about most of the Seagate products. I have extracted the part about the st225 below for your benefit. I was unable to duplicate the IBM printer graphics showing the cabling. For that you'll have to get the original file and print it out on an IBM style printer. SEAGATE TECHNOLOGY, INC. Customer Technical Support FAX Network +1 408 438-8137 Customer Technical Support Bulletin Boards (300-9600, 8-N-1) United States +1 408 438-8771 United Kingdom +44 628 478011 Germany +49 89 140-9331 Singapore +65 227-2217 (C)opyright 1991 ST-225 ST412 MFM UNFORMATTED CAPACITY (MB) ________________25.6 FORMATTED CAPACITY (17 SECTORS) (MB) _____21.4 ACTUATOR TYPE ____________________________STEPPER TRACKS ___________________________________2,460 CYLINDERS ________________________________615 HEADS ____________________________________4 DISCS ____________________________________2 MEDIA TYPE _______________________________OXIDE RECORDING METHOD _________________________MFM TRANSFER RATE (mbits/sec) ________________5.0 SPINDLE SPEED (RPM) ______________________3,600 AVERAGE LATENCY (mSEC) ___________________8.3 INTERFACE ________________________________ST412 SECTORS PER DRIVE ________________________41,820 TPI (TRACKS PER INCH) ____________________588 BPI (BITS PER INCH) ______________________9,827 AVERAGE ACCESS (ms) ______________________65 SINGLE TRACK SEEK (ms) ___________________20 MAX FULL SEEK (ms) _______________________150 MTBF (power-on hours) ____________________100,000 POWER REQUIREMENTS: +12V START-UP (amps) _2.4 +12V TYPICAL (amps) __0.9 +5V TYPICAL (amps) ___0.8 TYPICAL (watts) ______14.8 MAXIMUM (watts) ______33 BUFFERED STEP PULSE RATE (micro sec) _____5-200 WRITE PRECOMP (cyl) ______________________300 REDUCED WRITE CURRENT (cyl) ______________N/A (616) LANDING ZONE (cyl)________________________670 IBM AT DRIVE TYPE ________________________2 Seagate reserves the right to change, without notice, product offerings or specifications. (6/26/90) I hope this helps. -*- 87373 15-MAY 19:05 General Information RE: st225 (Re: Msg 87360) From: PHILSCHERER To: ALWAGNER (NR) Thank you very much for the technical stuff Al--It's pretty much all I'll need. -*- End of Thread. -*- 87362 15-MAY 08:42 Programmers Den GNU C 2.5.8 From: KEITHBAUER To: ALL I am trying to compile a program with the new version of GNU C. First let me say that I have not used this version or the prior one very much. Anyway the problem I ran into is this. In the file included from ancadv.c:11: This same error also comes up in the libio.h file. What is it looking for? I can comment these lines out and the program compiles fine but I am sure that these lines are there for a reason and should not be commented out. I downloaded the 2 files from here called: gcc_258_cmds.lzh gcc_2_5_8_lib.lzh The other files seemed to pertain to GCC+. Do I need one or more of these files also? Also are there any little 'tricks' that one needs to know about using the GNU C. It seems to give alot of warnings that CC never gives me. Thanks Keith Bauer CIS:71102,317 Delphi:keithbauer Internet:kbauer@pids.com Via InfoXpress/OSK ver 1.01 How 'bout them Cowboys! -*- 87369 15-MAY 17:57 OSK Applications MM/1 internal speaker From: VAXELF To: ALL has anyone found a way to use the internal speaker other than the BELL command in GCFX.L and "display 07". I once read about the internal sound port was controlable. John D. -*- 87374 15-MAY 19:30 General Information Puppo Broke From: STEWARD To: ALL While tring to repair the solder joints on the ibm keyboard plug, I broke the capacitors connected to it, and it dosn't work without them, and I can't identify what value they are. Can anybody help me? Brian -*- 87377 15-MAY 20:41 General Information RE: Puppo Broke (Re: Msg 87374) From: DSRTFOX To: STEWARD You can order a back issue of "68' micros" for $4 from FARNA Systems, 904 2nd Avenue, Warner Robins, GA 31098-1029 and get the issue with a complete schematic of the Puppo, or I can give you the capacitor values here. If you get the back issue, just specify the one with the Puppo schematic. -*- End of Thread. -*- 87375 15-MAY 20:27 General IformaDAC To: WDTV5 (NR) Gene, I see that you quite often upload .lhz archives. Are you doing them with the OS9 LHA? I have a problem that LHA isn't working properly wit h Nitro and am trying to find if this is happening to others. Anyone else reading this, who has a comment, is more than welcome to add to the report. The new version -cee- is ready, developed with Powerboost but we would like to clear ujup my problem before I put it here. Merv -*- 87376 15-MAY 20:34 General Information RE: HeathKit case/PS (Re: Msg 87286) From: DSRTFOX To: ILLUSIONIST I'll put some info on the SIG as soon as I get back from Chicago and recuperate! -*- 87385 15-MAY 23:32 General Information RE: HeathKit case/PS (Re: Msg 87339) From: MDALENE To: ILLUSIONIST Thanks! Gee, I wish I went to your community College. Connecticut has such a anal rententiveness about not giving away old stuff. They force you to go to hartford a haggle at an state aution for the stuff. Only I do nnot live in hartford!!!!; Michele Marie Dalene -*- 87391 16-MAY 01:59 General Information RE: HeathKit case/PS (Re: Msg 87376) From: ILLUSIONIST To: DSRTFOX (NR) Thanx! I hope to get a SCSI system up and running ASAP.. -* Mike -*- End of Thread. -*- 87378 15-MAY 21:46 General Information RE: Think about it... (Re: Msg 87317) From: TEDJAEGER To: PAGAN This thread is starting to get interesting to a psychologist now! The notion about the importance of the observer in determining what is observed is something psychology has struggled with throughout is history. First (Wundt 1879) we studied the mind by intrspection, then William James, bringing psychology to the US said that the act of observing your mind changed it so introspection was no good as an experimental technique for discovering parts of consciousness. Finally Watson (1913) said give up on the mind and study only objective behavior. Unforch Watson made some politically incorrect manuevers with a grad student and was asked to resign from John Hopkins. His influenced waned and we're back to doing mental processes again, often taking the computer as a model for how the mind works. Ah science! Bests ---TedJaeger -*- 87379 15-MAY 22:53 Telecom (6809) RE: SuperComm (Re: Msg 87291) From: RANDYKWILSON To: MMCCLELLAND Ummm, if you have a converted mod-pak, then you have a real RS232 port. Gonna have to go over some basics here. Do you use a MPI, and if so, which slot os the mod-pak in? What addr is the mod-pak set to? What driver and descriptor do you use? Tuneport is for adjusting the delay constant of the timing loop for the brain-damaged serial port on the back of the coco. This program only works with, and is only needed for, the MicroWare/Tandy drivers that use this port. RS232 packs are interupt driven, and do not use a timing loop. Randy -*- 87380 15-MAY 23:05 Telecom (6809) RE: Loading SC to another window (Re: Msg 87260) From: WA2EGP To: RANDYKWILSON Geez....it figures. I got back yesterday. Your were still a little ways away but it would have been interesting to eyeball. Oh well, maybe sometime in the future....... -*- 87381 15-MAY 23:11 General Information help From: ROBERT84 To: ALL Could someone help me out, I downloaded cctools from the database here. In the docs the author tells you to call the "back door bbs" to get a module to get rid of the pesky little window that keeps popping up. But he does not give the phone number. Does anyone out there know it? Thanks for the help, Bob -*- 87392 16-MAY 02:14 General Information virtual terminal From: ILLUSIONIST To: ALL Does anyone know if a product called Virtual Terminal (from South East Media) is still available? (Maybe from another vendor at this point?) VT allows running multiable applications from a terminal (similar to the way the CoCo windowing works, in that you just hit CLEAR to switch between screens) I have a program similar to VT running on my UNIX system, and would love to run several tasks from a terminal on my CoCo...If VT isnt available I might set out to write the program myself, but I know right off the bat it would require pipelines to be set up, and I havent messed with pipes that much.. and then there is the fact that the software would have to keep a "screen shot" of the program at all times to ensure proper screen updating.. well, any info on the Virtual Terminal software is appreciated, thanks.. -* Mike -*- 87395 16-MAY 04:09 Telecom (6809) SuperComm From: MMCCLELLAND To: RANDYKWILSON (NR) Rick- Yes, I use an MPI, and the mod-pak is in slot 2 (although it could easily be put in slot 1 or 3) I believe that the low byte of the mod-pak is &H68 and the high byte is &HFF. I am using the standard driver and device descriptor. I have tried to get SAcia, but COCOOS9 will not convert it because of its size. I have also downloaded the Edition 9 clock module and attempted to substitute it for the old clock, but the new boot disk that I created failed during the bootup. Supercomm appeared to work fine using 300 baud with the mod-pak, but it locked up at the end of downloads and when I used the keyclick feature. At 1200 and 2400 baud, it communicated fine with the modem (an Anchor 2400E), but not while using delphi. Delp hi seemed to understand what I typed, but it sent me words with missing and bad characters, especially when many 's were sent. My printer had a problem that was identical to this, and either TUNEPORT or a new clock module should have fixed it. Do you t hink that Edition 9 would fix these problems? -=Mark=- -*- 87396 16-MAY 04:18 General Information RE: 2 B&B interfaces at the same time (Re: Msg 87233) From: BROWN80 To: STEWARD (NR) It has been a while but lets see how much I remember. I think the answer is in the documentation. First, you know that you can put two drive on the same interface? If you still need more than one interface, I think the secret is in setting up the decriptors and drivers. On the disk that Chris gives you to create the descriptors, is a blank for each slot on the MPI, this should be allow you to create descriptors that will address each controller uniquely(sp) If you've already taken this into account, I'll shut up and let smarter guys advize you. John Brown -*- FORUM>Reply, Add, Read, "?" or Exit> FORUM>Reply, Add, Read, "?" or Exit>