read new nonstop follow 86769 14-APR 19:33 General Information RE: New MM/1 Monitor (Re: Msg 86759) From: COLORSYSTEMS To: BOISY > Thanks for the info on the speakers. Thanks to Bill Clinton I don't have > extra money to invest in a sound mixer/speakers now since it's tax time, > but I'll keep them in mind. Boisy, tell us which new taxes you are paying which Bill Clinton was responsible for? ------------------------------------ Zack C Sessions "We did not inherit the Earth from our Ancestors, we borrowed it from our descendants." Ancient proverb -*- 86777 15-APR 01:47 General Information RE: New MM/1 Monitor (Re: Msg 86769) From: MITHELEN To: COLORSYSTEMS Maybe Boisy is upset because the IRS didn't withhold as much this year as last and now he has a bigger tax bill to pay, or he isn't getting as much back and it just looks to him that he paid more... In reality, I believe only 1.2% of the population actually had to pay higher taxes, aand they were in the over 180K/year income bracket... IF Microware is paying Boisy that much, he has no right to complain! 8-) Disclaimer: I'm not a tax accountant, I just play one on the Internet. -- Paul -*- 86778 15-APR 08:45 General Information RE: New MM/1 Monitor (Re: Msg 86769) From: JEJONES To: COLORSYSTEMS > Boisy, tell us which new taxes you are paying which Bill Clinton was > responsible for? Since this is off-topic, I'll keep it short and one-shot only: the one that come to mind are the gasoline tax. Would the absence of the promised middle-class tax cut count as a new tax, or an old one? Opinions herein are those of their respective authors, and not necessarily those of any organization. Clipper Chip: Big Brother Inside -*- 86785 15-APR 20:03 General Information RE: New MM/1 Monitor (Re: Msg 86752) From: JOHNBAER To: DSRTFOX (NR) > John, you can pick up a NEW Commodore 1084S.... Thanks for the information Frank.. Will look into it. -- John - *** Posted with Ved 2.3 & IX 1.0.1 *** -*- 86786 15-APR 20:03 General Information RE: New MM/1 Monitor (Re: Msg 86755) From: JOHNBAER To: WA2EGP > I'm using a Mitsubishi Daimond Scan AUm-1391A with mine. > Someone was collecting this info but I guess never posted it. > Maybe I should (grin). Ya, go for it. I'm sure there's more people out there that could use this information. If I get anything on my end, I'll pass it your way. -- John - *** Posted with Ved 2.3 & IX 1.0.1 *** -*- 86790 15-APR 23:05 General Information RE: New MM/1 Monitor (Re: Msg 86778) From: COLORSYSTEMS To: JEJONES > Since this is off-topic, I'll keep it short and one-shot only: the one > that come to mind are the gasoline tax. Would the absence of the > promised middle-class tax cut count as a new tax, or an old one? The price of gas where I live did not go up noticibly when the tax when into effect. It went up on the day the tax went in. Later the local stations had a price war and after they settled down, they were less than what the old price plus the tax added was. And even if the entire tax did get applied and stuck there for gas in your area, the increase that Boisy would have to pay would be a lot less that most others, unless he commutes more than 30 or so miles one way to work 5 days a week. Counting the absense of a "promised" middle-class tax cut being counted as a new tax (or even an old tax) is really applying Washingtonesqe accounting to the max, don't you think? Besides, Clinton said he would like to give the middle class a tax cut, but his expectations at the time of what the projected deficit was going to be for the year were a lot lower than they eventually turned out to be. ------------------------------------ Zack C Sessions "We did not inherit the Earth from our Ancestors, we borrowed it from our descendants." Ancient proverb -*- 86814 17-APR 11:53 General Information RE: New MM/1 Monitor (Re: Msg 86786) From: TEDJAEGER To: JOHNBAER (NR) I'd sure be interested in seeing that info on monitors for the mm1. I'm currently using a Mag 8cm515. Satisfactory, but loose several lines in overscan 90X30 and no adjustment available. Mostly I wish we'd get support for VGA as I understand the hardware can do 35 HZ sync and then we could just VGA monitors. Ah well! Bests ---TedJaeger -*- End of Thread. -*- 86771 14-APR 20:42 General Information RE: PC Madness (Re: Msg 86768) From: BOISY To: ISC Bill, While the lowercase "a" taking up 6K doesn't necessarily make OS-9 shine, it does indicate that Microsoft writes their applications the same way they code their operating system -- bloated size with little substance. -*- 86783 15-APR 19:59 General Information RE: PC Madness (Re: Msg 86771) From: COLORSYSTEMS To: BOISY > While the lowercase "a" taking up 6K doesn't necessarily make OS-9 shine, > it does indicate that Microsoft writes their applications the same way > they code their operating system -- bloated size with little substance. And remember, Boisy, while a Word 6 document which only has the character "a" in it is 6K, then a Word 6 document with the characters "ab" is probably just 6K + 1. ------------------------------------ Zack C Sessions "We did not inherit the Earth from our Ancestors, we borrowed it from our descendants." Ancient proverb -*- End of Thread. -*- 86772 14-APR 21:20 OSK Applications RE: protocol (Re: Msg 86763) From: RANDYKWILSON To: TIMKIENTZLE (NR) Tim, Chuck F.'s desertation on Ymodem can be found in the CoCo sig, and I believe I got Z-modem from the IBM sig. Randy -*- 86773 14-APR 23:24 General Information Disto SCII From: SYSWOP To: ALL I recently bought a SCII with the 4-n-1 and I'm have some troubles using the RS232 The controller works great and I have done the hardware IRQ hack to the MPI so I can use my Tandy RS232 and the Disto RS232....only problem is..it doesnt work. The Disto...setup for the new address and the Tandy set at default dont seem to interfere with each other BUT if I use a terminal program and while online with the Disto I drop to a window for some purpose...the whole sytem locks and I have to RE-Boot...I havent tried using the Disto rs232 without the Tandy in the MPI. I am told that it is possible to call from one to the other without troubles. Has anyone got any Ideas? -*- 86782 15-APR 16:21 General Information RE: Disto SCII (Re: Msg 86773) From: ILLUSIONIST To: SYSWOP interesting, are you using the Ed. 9 CLOCK module? I had a few weird problems too until I switched to the new clock module.. -* Mike -*- 86800 16-APR 19:09 General Information RE: Disto SCII (Re: Msg 86782) From: SYSWOP To: ILLUSIONIST I just did an Ident on clock....it is edition #3.... I will look around and see if I can find edition 9...Thanx! -*- End of Thread. -*- 86774 15-APR 00:41 OSK Applications MM/1 Monitors + From: NIMITZ To: ALL Actually, I'd like anyone who has an MM/1 to forward to me as complete a description as possible of their system setup, and escppecially any monitors, hard drives , tape drives or CD ROM drives in use. David M. Graham BlackHawk Enterprises, Inc. -*- 86775 15-APR 00:43 OSK Applications RE: MM/1 Monitors + (Re: Msg 86774) From: NIMITZ To: NIMITZ You forgot to mention, David, that you have a source for new, in the box , Magnavox 1CM135's for the MM/1. David -*- 86793 16-APR 00:18 OSK Applications RE: MM/1 Monitors + (Re: Msg 86774) From: WA2EGP To: NIMITZ OK. Here's mine. MM/1, 3 meg, 2 3.5 floppies, 205 meg HD, 80 meg HD, CDROM drive (refirbished, forgot brand, will have to pull it out to see), tape drive waiting to go in. Monitor is Mitsubishi Diamond Scan AUM-1391A. Configuration may change after this weekend (BIG computer show in NJ). -*- 86805 16-APR 20:47 OSK Applications RE: MM/1 Monitors + (Re: Msg 86793) From: NIMITZ To: WA2EGP Thanks. If you hear of any currently avaiable Multisync's that do sync down to 15 MHZ please let me knwo!! -*- 86806 16-APR 22:09 OSK Applications RE: MM/1 Monitors + (Re: Msg 86805) From: WA2EGP To: NIMITZ (NR) You mean down to 15 kHz don't you? Don't scare me like that (grin)! I will try to get a list going. I know someone was playing with a NEC multisync but I never heard if it was successful or not. I've also heard other names tossed around but never got any details. It is almost a "big secret". Unforch, most of the monitors are probably older models with limited supply. If I find a source, I'll post it! -*- 86808 16-APR 23:40 OSK Applications RE: MM/1 Monitors + (Re: Msg 86806) From: MITHELEN To: WA2EGP (NR) Nec Multisync 3D's will work with the MM/1... no problem... don't know about newer NECs... -- Paul -*- End of Thread. -*- 86776 15-APR 01:13 Programmers Den RE: Ultra C 1.1.2 (Re: Msg 86764) From: PAGAN To: TIMKIENTZLE (NR) >I'd be interested to know how GCC compares to those figures. When Ultra-C >first came out, I recall some figures that were posted to Usenet showing >that Ultra-C code was significantly poorer in both speed and size than GCC >code, and was occasionally worse than C 3.2! Hope that situation has >improved. I'm also curious to know if Ultra-C is less buggy now. (Those >German guys are really tough on compiler testing!) I don't have GCC so I can't check but I did post the source code I used so someone could check if they want to. Maybe they will be kind enough to post the results here for the rest of use to see. Bill Shepard of Microware sent me a message about some tests done. In part: ...Ultra C has benchmarked as the fastest 68K compiler on the market, bar none (speed of code generated, not time to generate the code). There are at least seven other commerical compilers plus GCC which benchmarks show we are faster than, in most cases by at least 50% (as measured by Dhrystones), and in more extensive benchmarking against GCC V2.4 we beat it in every standardized test we could find. Similarly, the 80x86 version has proven to be 40% faster than Microsoft and Borland and very, very close to Watcom. All I can say for sure is: UCC 1.1.2 generated code is faster than 3.2 everywhere I've used it. I can say that the bugs I knew about have been fixed in 1.1.2 and all reports I've recieved so far are that it's pretty good. I haven't made much use of it yet because I don't have a lot of free space on my hard drives (2X40 Meg). I bought a 340 meg drive today so I'll be able to play with UCC more when I have more storage space. Stephen (PAGAN) -*- 86779 15-APR 08:45 General Information CD-i service manual From: JEJONES To: ALL Well...curiosity overcame me, and I went out and got a service manual for the Philips CD-i 220. It makes for some very interesting reading, but Frank's already reported on the interesting features as far as diagnostics go--I see no way to get a shell prompt from it. :-) (Aside from what they call the "service shell," which isn't a shell of the sort that you and I know and, well, are accustomed to.) Is it worth the $40 that it cost me? Well...I dunno. Opinions herein are those of their respective authors, and not necessarily those of any organization. Clipper Chip: Big Brother Inside -*- 86780 15-APR 10:50 General Information OS-9 modules From: MROWEN01 To: ALL I have dusted off Multi-vue and got it running on my Coco3. I built a boot disk to add my hard drive diver and descriptors. Everything works, but I discovered that I didn't include the SACIA driver. This brings me to my question. Does the ACIA driver have to be loaded in a specific order during the boot? Can I just load the driver and go as I need it? I'm not very comfortable with the order that any of the modules must be loaded during boot up. Any help is appreciated. My main reason for installing Multi-Vue is to make the system easier for the family to use. Thanks. -Mike Rowen -*- 86781 15-APR 12:56 General Information RE: OS-9 modules (Re: Msg 86780) From: MITHELEN To: MROWEN01 It is never a smart idea to load drivers and descriptors on the fly on the CoCo. You are much better off just adding them to the end of your boot file. -- Paul -*- End of Thread. -*- 86784 15-APR 20:03 General Information RE: Infocom Games for OSK (Re: Msg 86720) From: JOHNBAER To: JOHNBAER Just wanted to add that I got both packages today. The Lost treasures 1 has 22 games, and the second has 11. Out of the 31, only one won't work due to it being written for graphics. The name of that one is Zork Zero... Lets see, 30 games cost me $60 with S/H.. Not bad . -- John - *** Posted with Ved 2.3 & IX 1.0.1 *** -*- 86787 15-APR 21:12 General Information MM/1 Sound From: BOISY To: JOHNBAER Hi John, While in Babbage's (a software/hardware store in the local mall) this afternoon looking for a mouse, I ran across the ideal MM/1 speaker console. It's called the S3 Under Monitor Speaker System made by Addison Tech. It's 13" x 11" and over 3" high and sits under your monitor. On the left and right side are two built in tweeters and on the underside is a woofer for bass. The front panel has volume, tone, balance and mixer knobs as well as a headphone jack and power button. The back has connections for two external 4 or 8 ohm speakers, and has two stereo inputs (A and B). Using the mixer knob, you can mix in two separate sound sources. I have my MM/1's stereo out connected to L & R input A. To sample sound, all that's needed is a connector from the headphone jack on the front to the MM/1's stereo input. One could attach a microphone or other line level signal to input B, then sample that source right into the MM/1. My monitor fits great on it, although the monitor stand overlaps a bit on both sides and the back. The unit also has non-skid rubber feet and is magnetically shielded to prevent interference with the monitor. It came with a 1/8" stereo to dual RCA cable and can safely support up to a 50 pound monitor. It complements my MM/1 nicely since it's the same color as my computer case. Plus, it can double for an amplifier. Cool stuff! -*- 86791 15-APR 23:13 General Information RE: MM/1 Sound (Re: Msg 86787) From: COLORSYSTEMS To: BOISY > While in Babbage's (a software/hardware store in the local mall) this > afternoon looking for a mouse, I ran across the ideal MM/1 speaker > console. It's called the S3 Under Monitor Speaker System made by Addison > Tech. It's 13" x 11" and over 3" high and sits under your monitor. > > It complements my MM/1 nicely since it's the same color as my computer > case. Plus, it can double for an amplifier. Cool stuff! I thought that Bill Clinton had your budget in such bad shape you couldn't afford any "luxuries"? ------------------------------------ Zack C Sessions "We did not inherit the Earth from our Ancestors, we borrowed it from our descendants." Ancient proverb -*- End of Thread. -*- 86788 15-APR 21:55 General Information RE: GOAL?? (Re: Msg 86739) From: CHYDE To: REVWCP I think it did, at least I did a review of for the RAINBOW (unfortunately it never got published). It was a nice language if you don't mind assembler. Have you tried contacting the people who wrote it, their address should've been in the ad. If you can't find it I still have their address somewhere . Chris -*- 86789 15-APR 22:21 General Information RE: GOAL?? (Re: Msg 86788) From: REVWCP To: CHYDE I will try writing to them. Thanks for the help. With all best wishes, Brother Jeremy, CSJW OS9 User Group Treasurer -*- End of Thread. -*- 86792 15-APR 23:23 Programmers Den FPO9 From: ILLUSIONIST To: ALL Has anyone worked out some interfaces to FPO9 (floating point math module) for C, Pascal or Basic09...the only examples I have seen are for asm.. -* Mike -*- 86794 16-APR 00:55 General Information OFNOHOC From: REVWCP To: ALL To any OS9ers in the Milwaukee Wisconsin Area. OFNOHOC - The Occassional Friday Night OS9 Hanging Out Club is looking for members. We are an informal (very informal) group (pair) namely Brother Jeremy and Rick Ulland. Stated goals: 1. To prove that software can blow up a computer. 2. To show that with one hadware modification the COCO makes an efficient space heater. 3. To prove they said it couldn't be done...but what the heck? If interested respond in Email or here in the forum if you don't have any pride. We'll never be a threat to Glenside, but we do have fun. With all best wishes, Brother Jeremy, CSJW OS9 User Group Treasurer -*- 86801 16-APR 19:23 General Information RE: OFNOHOC (Re: Msg 86794) From: CHARLESAM To: REVWCP Brother Jeremy, if you get to see Ricku once a week, you don't need the rest of us. Kidding aside, I'm trying to get in touch with Rick about an important matter(at least to me). I've written via US mail and left mail here but no response. I see he hasn't been here since March 21st. I tried calling him at the Conect number but I call at 9pm EDT or later due to work. Maybe you could tell him to call me collect. He has my number. Just tell him Charlie Marlow would appreciate a call. He knows what this is about. Thanx Brother Jeremy. I wish I lived in that area, your group must be a gas... Charlie -*- End of Thread. -*- 86795 16-APR 01:02 Programmers Den Pixel_Blaster From: REVWCP To: ALL Dear friends: Has anyone had any experience with a program called Pixel Blaster. I purchased a copy from COCOPRO back in 1992. I really have not done a lot with it. It greatly speeded up graphics on the COCO. It was not written for the 6309, so I don't know if it could be optimized for Powerboost or Nitro, but I did run it on a powerboosted disk. I might post a demo or two, but it would be useless laster. With all best wishes, Brother Jeremy, CSJW OS9 User Group Treasurer -*- 86796 16-APR 01:35 New Uploads Emulator From: PHXKEN To: ALL After installing the last version of the CoCoII Emulator, it's a breeze to retrieve files from my coco disks and place them on the PC hard drive as virtual disks probably because I have an old 5 1/4 double density drive as drive b: I was able to place all 3 of the Interbank Incident 160K disks onto virtual disks in about 5 minutes. Yes the new emulator works great with OS-9 Level I. My only problem is the "MOUSE". The newer mouse drivers seem to cause a system crash when in the emulator and my older mouse driver (works fine for rsdos programs) hangs after a short while when running Interbank. Has anyone else experienced a similar problem or is it just "MY" equipment? -*- 86797 16-APR 14:19 General Information Printer From: REVWCP To: ALL Dear Friends: Has any one had any experience with the Epson Stylus 300 Ink-Jet Printer? It is available for around $300.00 dollars. Of course I would like to use it with MAX-10. I would guess that for most things, it should work as a standard Epson printer. I will have to get more information on it. With all best wishes, Brother Jeremy, CSJW OS9 User's Group Treasurer -*- 86807 16-APR 23:19 General Information RE: Printer (Re: Msg 86797) From: ILLUSIONIST To: REVWCP An Epson ink-jet MIGHT not work exactly like an epson dot-matrix, which is what MAX-10 (and most other coco programs) support. -*- End of Thread. -*- 86798 16-APR 15:05 General Information Canada mail From: MRUPGRADE To: DSRTFOX (NR) Is there a faster way to get mail into Canada. BVP used to say,, it slowed down because of the (grin) dogsleds that delivered it. Evidently the doggies are trudging on dry ground after the snow's gone. It seems to take a week ana half,, to get a disk to Chris Dekker. Would INTL Air help?? BTW: He has Homp-Pac lookjking better then ever! Many added little niceties. andn hmailer... WOW there "used to be" a OS mailer I considered theh best. Key words This one will work anywhere form a simple home mailer to international,, mail list for organizations. Several pgms,, added to make a better package. I mean lookin' good! Now to update theh Doc's. Trying to have it ready by the Fest. Lemme know on the mail??? Til then,,, Terry Simons -*- 86810 17-APR 02:02 General Information RE: Canada mail (Re: Msg 86798) From: KSCALES To: MRUPGRADE > Is there a faster way to get mail into Canada. BVP used to say,, it > slowed down because of the (grin) dogsleds that delivered it. Evidently > the doggies are trudging on dry ground after the snow's gone. It seems > to take a week ana half,, to get a disk to Chris Dekker. Would INTL Air > help?? Terry, that's why it costs 43 cents to mail a letter in Canada. It actually only costs 25 cents to get it to the destination. The rest is to cover storage charges. Regards... / Ken -------------------------------------------------------------------------- Ken Scales Delphi:KSCALES Internet:kscales@delphi.com CIS:74646,2237 -*- 86813 17-APR 10:42 General Information RE: Canada mail (Re: Msg 86810) From: MRUPGRADE To: KSCALES (NR) Great reply! Storage charges,, I hadn't thought of that. Last night we short cut it a bit. Giving some to Ma Bell. Chris needed th Doc files,,, so I just uploaded to him. We want to have this ready for the Fest. And don't have a lot of time for week ana half sends. I am really impressed with what Chris (Dekker) has done with this hmoe management system. for starters,,, He places an "INSTALL" program,, which both configures to your system,, and eleminates the need foro the non-OSer to learn how to,, or follow a long list of command structure; to install it with a system disk. (The way a program should be written) The finacial part,, is (shrug) better then my 7 years of upgrading (in RSDOS) has achieved; with more features. The Mailer base,, is the best I've seen. Can be used for aunt Martha's Christ card list,,, a rollodex file,, of a publishers data base. With expiration dates. This shouold be a $49.95 package,, but of course foro CoCo will be much less. 9 Til then,,, Terry Simons -*- End of Thread. -*- 86799 16-APR 18:32 General Information SCRIBE 4.0 ? From: BANDMAN To: ALL Can anybody tell me where to find Scribe 4.0? I see many references to it in the database, but can'T find it. Thanks in advance! --=>Gary<=-- -*- 86803 16-APR 20:04 General Information RE: SCRIBE 4.0 ? (Re: Msg 86799) From: PHXKEN To: BANDMAN (NR) Look right here in the database under telecom programs. Search for scribe and scribe4.0 from 1992 will appear. It's too old to be under the new arrivals...probably why you missed it? -*- End of Thread. -*- 86802 16-APR 20:04 General Information Coco 3 System From: CLAUDECOTE To: ALL For Sale !!! A new job with IBM compatible leaves me no more time to work on my Coco 3. Description: Coco 3 board mounted in a 200 watts case, with: - New HD63C09EP chip installed - Disto 1-Meg RAM - Disto 4in1 controller - 85-Meg SCSI hard disk - 3.5" 720K floppy - 5.25" 360K floppy - Tandy VM-2 monochrome monitor (Disto RGB adaptor) - Citizen Premiere 35 Daisy Wheel printer - Disto EPROM burner The system operates with RGB-DOS, as primary system in DOS. RGB is rewritten to use 40-tracks disks. Space for 256 floppies is reserved in the upper part of the hard disk for DOS floppies. A complete original OS-9, updated with NitrOS-9 from Wes Gale, is installed and functional. OS-9 boots from hard disk, with a simple command (OS9) from RGB-DOS. Over 100 original software with original documentation, comprising for OS-9: OS9 system, OS-9 Development System, Multi-Vue, C Compiler, Pascal, Burke 6309 Assembler, Sourcerer disassembler, various utilities from D.P.Johnson, Burke & Burke, Keith J. Alphonso, Bob Van Der Poel. RGB-DOS for DOS and OS-9. Kit includes the following: a spare SCSI 20-Meg hard disk, Disto controller regular last edition, a complete original Coco 3 512K, another with 128K, 2 Serial Parallel converter, a spare 2 X 360K floppy in case, a spare 6309. All schematic diagrams concerning the system, all development files for each programs I have written or modified (mainly in assembler), all original do- cumentation and where possible invoices for over 100 programs included. Cannot ship by mail or transporter, unless specified you accepts the risks. Can arrange to meet you in Montreal or Quebec, with $100. in advance to act as a deposit. Price for the kit: $1200. Canadian dollars, in cash, hand to hand. Contact me by FAX (418) 668-5112 Phone Day (418) 668-3023 Evening (418) 344-1477 Speak English a little, but prefer to read and write. Claude Cote 660 Labarre Hebertville P.Q. Canada G0W 1S0 -*- 86804 16-APR 20:04 General Information RE: SCSI tape drive (Re: Msg 86725) From: MARKGRIFFITH To: COLORSYSTEMS Zack, > I bought a 2150 from Mark, a 250 Mb drive. It is my impression that the > drivers which came with it should work with any standard OSK system, MM/1 > or otherwise. Of course, I could be wrong, and the authoriative source, > Mark himself, will undoubtedly set the record straight as soon as he sees > this thread!!! I dunno about that definitive source stuff! (grin) The drivers I have will work on any OSK system that uses Carl's scsi_mm1d manager. So, that pretty much means the MM/1 only. This is because of the type of SCSI chip the MM/1 uses (the WD 33C93A). /*********** /\/\ark *************/ (Upload with InfoXpress Ver. 1.01) -*- 86809 17-APR 01:10 Applications (6809) Automaticc archive converter needed From: MDALENE To: ALL I remember some time ago asking if there was an automatic archive conversion utility that could convert any archive to any type automatically. On My old ibm when I had one, I used to use a tool called zzap. It converted archives based on the information that I provided in a file called zzap.dat. Meaning if an archiver exsisted for a specific extension, it would know what to do with it. I used to use this program automatically when my BBS was running on my XT to automatically convert archives on the fly as an event. I use LHA 2.11 both on my IBM and the Coco 3. Since I no longer have an IBM compatible. I no longer have ZZAP. Of course two problems with zzap. 1. it could not do AR files as there was no official AR program for os9 files at the time I used to run my bbs system 2. It does not know the difference from LHA 2.11 or the LZH bastardization that we have lurking around The third problem which I must clearly say, IT DOES NOT EXSIST on the COCO! I would Kill for a ZZAP processor system for my coco! I am phasing out AR and guess what? I have to process over 5,000 .AR files! Now if there was a time I needed a robot batch file converter system.... It is now! ZZAP could convert any archive to any other archive type. For a short time I was using PKUNZIP 2.04G and converting to pkzip 1.10. It had seperate statements in zzap.dat for archiving and dearchiving tools. It did Nested archives quick and painlessly. it did archives that created directories just as easily making the sub directories into archives of the specified type. I used it to covert from Zip to Zip. ZIP to PKARC. Zip to Zoo, Zip to LBR (CP/M type systems use LBR archives, I was a CP/M Repository and had 8" drives to read H47 CP/M disks on the system as well as for DOS usage). The simple fact was it could convert anything to anything providing you had those archivers/dearchivers installed on your system! I know I can be cruel at times with tough demands but I beg of any one who has the time to desigh such a beast! Oh yeah I know how to get around AR's miserable files like this ..../cmds/pain_in_the_side where it would transverse your tree 4 times? Heres the fun trick using ded. lets see your workspace is /dd/test go into ded from the root of /dd and type ded test Notice where the .. points (2e ae for those who do know know abut the high bit setting) on my 10 meg second HD the 2e Ae pointed to 15 as a LSN. and AE pointed to 1D (empty work drive thats why things are so clean). Change the LSN in the 2E AE entry to 1D and write out cd into /dd/test and try to cd out with .. like this cd .. you will be stuck in /dd/test! No matter how many periods you stack on that line! you can return to the root by typing chd /dd and it will work fine. Deleteing your test directory with DELDIR will choak though. to do that you have to edit your /dd/test directory to return the 2E AE to point back to the root entry. then deldir would work ok. I am only mentioning this so that people who get those noxious AR files can convert them without hunting in their cmds directory for the pieces! It would make the CMDS directory in /dd/TEST! That may be a nessary evil for the processor btw. OH yeah about ZZAP.dat you not only supplied the working directory you could supply a directory called BADPATH= your place for bad archives as well as if you wanted virus scanning. To do the actual conversion. you supplied filename pathlists on the command line like this zzap d:\dloads\*.* zzap would determine what archives were what in the d:\dloads directory automatically based on what archive extensions where listed in zzap.dat This line was usually stuck in the dos environment uless you were in the directory zzap lived.. for us the /dd/sys directory for zzap.dat would suffice. It would automatically convert the archives and would automaticaly delete the old archives unless you specified otherwise. It checked for nested archives and archives that had sub directory entries. It did these conversions in the directory you specified in zzap.dat. Now I gave you some info. Will one of you great hackers create one? ZZAP (the title) is copyrighted but maybe since it is shareware you can find the author and ask permission to port it. Michele Marie Dalene -*- 86811 17-APR 02:16 OSK Applications PGP for OSK? From: RHELLER To: ALL Has anyone ported PGP to OSK? I just made a first stab at compiling it (using gcc 2.5.6), but although I got everything to compile and link, it does not seem to work. Rather than re-invent the wheel, I thought I might ask around and see if someone else has built a working version. Robert -*- 86812 17-APR 09:02 General Information Chess From: ILLUSIONIST To: ALL I have not seen a good chess program anywhere for OS-9, I was wondering if one exists and where I can get it, I doubt one exits for the CoCo, but I would be willing to up to $50 for a good chess game for the coco, of course I would enjoy nice looking graphics on it, but I wouldnt want it "overly done" 3d-like boxes and such are too slow on the CoCo, esp when downloading, and that is when I do 60% of my CoCo gameing when I am either transferring large files with my friends, or to my other systems (or when delphi slows down a bit), I have tried out the free version in the databases here.. the computers game is terrible and there are too many bugs.... :( Anyone know of a chess game out there (text based is fine) if there isnt I might write a text based game, as I am not all that good at fancy graphics (when graphics come to art I flunk, if the graphics are going by mathematics I do alright :) ) thanks for any info.. -*- FORUM>Reply, Add, Read, "?" or Exit>