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Most people who _c_o_u_l_d qualify as "furry fans" don't even know that such a thing as furry fandom exists, and even the ones who have been involved in it for a while can go a long time without having more than a foggy idea of where other people with similar interests are located, what they're doing, what they publish, and lately, who've they've been fighting with. "FurBytes" will be likely to have convention listings and addresses for fan publications. News from the publishers and from fans will be stuffed in here, and I'd like to see the inclusion of a "furry fandom directory." Letters of comment are welcome (in fact, a LoC section could be _m_o_r_e than just welcome--it could almost be a centerpiece of a 'zine like this). As you might have guessed, a large part of future issues depends on what people send me. Being a typical furry fan, I, too, am mostly in the dark when it comes to events going on outside my area; while I try to scrounge out as much information as I can, having people actually _t_e_l_l me things would make it much easier! While I will try to list every convention I know of where a "furry party" is planned, conventions where furry fans are just planning to show up are also welcome. Free "advertisements" can also be submitted as long as they're within the theme of FurBytes. Conventional and E-Mail addresses for me (Watts Martin) will be listed at the end of this, and future, issues. ----- WWhhaatt iiss aa FFuurrrryy?? For a first issue, this seems like a good question to address. Unfortunately, it seems to be one that's caused more than a little disagreement among furry fans. Part of this article was taken from an "about furry fandom" file that has made its way to several BBS's FurBytes [The Electronic Furry Fanzine] #1 - Mar 1990 2 ---------------------------------------------------------------------- across the country. If you're not a furry fan, this should give you an idea of what "furry fan" implies, and might let you know whether or not you really are a furry fan and just don't know it. If you are a furry fan and you don't like this definition, feel free to complain about it (several people I know already have). I have been told that the file was originally written by "Dr Pepper," but have never actually seen it with credits attached. I have assumed both this file and the messages from the DeathStar BBS which follow it are in the 'public domain,' as they were originally found without copyright notices on public-access BBS's and that, therefore, their authors do not mind if people outside these boards have the chance to read them in this form. First--now that the question's been brought up, just what IS a furry, anyway? Simply enough, a furry is a funny animal taken seriously. Roger Rabbit, Bugs Bunny, and Mickey Mouse are funny animals; they are anthropomorphic, mostly behave like people, and are pretty much the cartoon equivalent of character actors. Usagi Yojimbo, Omaha the Cat Dancer, and the original Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles are furries (even though turtles don't have fur); they are even more anthropomorphic in appearance than the funny animals are, but behave like crosses between humans and animals. They are sapient, and just as much "people" as any fictional character, but they aren't presented as animals for laughs. Most furries tend towards their human aspects, their "species" not all that important. Some are more strongly tied to the animals they are to, perhaps 'regressing' under stress (for example, Vincent on "Beauty and the Beast," who is perhaps the 'furriest' creature known to audiences--a nonhuman, animalistic character portrayed in a fairly realistic manner). Even if you have no idea who Usagi Yojimbo and Omaha are, you could be a furry fan and not know it. Most funny animal fans are also animation fans, and there is a lot of "crossover" between devotees of anime (Japanese animation) and the furry world. If you enjoy old Warner Brothers cartoons or Disney films such as "The Fox and the Hound," "Lady and the Tramp" or "Oliver and Company"--or other animated films such as Bluth's "The Secret of NIMH" or Nelvana's "Rock and Rule"--there is at least a little furry in you. There have also been furry novels, of course, ranging from Andre Norton's _B_r_e_e_d__t_o _C_o_m_e to Olaf Stapledon's _S_i_r_i_u_s_:__A__F_a_n_t_a_s_y__o_f___L_oe___a_n_d___D_i_s_c_o_r_d and Steven Boyett's recent _T_h_e__A_r_c_h_i_t_e_c_t__o_f__S_l_e_e_p. A furry "ography" has been batted around on some California BBS's; perhaps this will find its way into a future issue of FurBytes. However, there is another use of "furry," a way of referring to a funny-animal/furry fan. For most people, this is where the idea gets fuzzy, if you'll pardon the expression. I have not been involved with fandom all that long--I have not attended that many conventions, and my first one was the 1986 WorldCon in Atlanta--and so have been mostly an outside observer in the "fandom is a way of life" versus "fandom is just a goddamn hobby" debate. I have been around long enough to run into people on both sides, ranging from the casual observers to the fanboys from hell to people who really do seem to make fandom a profession. As to whether or not any of the rest of this describes a FurBytes [The Electronic Furry Fanzine] #1 - Mar 1990 3 ---------------------------------------------------------------------- "typical furry fan:" from what I've seen, _t_y_p_i_c_a_l__f_a_n is an oxymoron. Furry Fandom Observed (credited to Dr Pepper) This is an attempt to concisely explain furrydom to the curious. I am not myself a member of this group, this is what I have been told, have heard and read, or just observed in action. This is by no means complete but it is a start towards understanding. 1. In the simplest terms furry fandom is the admiration of creatures that have both human and animal traits. Since such do not actually exist, this is considered a subgenre of science fiction/fantasy fandom. 2. One aspect of this is simply liking so called "funny animal" cartoons and comics, such as Bugs Bunny, Tom & Jerry, et al. Such creatures are not conceived with much logic, and it is their human references that are important, the animal shape is more for humor than anything else. 3. Then there is the envy of certain traits observed in animals. Such traits include speed, strength, grace, beauty, cunning and of course possession of fur. Most of the animals people are attracted to are mammals, hence the term "furry," but nothing is excluded. 4. This leads to the desire to put oneself in the animal's place so as to be able to really experience what it is like to be so gifted. 5. But most people want to have this experience with human type sapience. This leads to the postulation of various kinds of creatures. 6. Real animals that somehow can think and talk. A lot of folklore and mythology is mined for source material for these. Of more recent vintage is the idea of using biological or digital technology to augment ordinary creatures. 7. Sapient analogs of certain animals. These include parallel evolution on other worlds, human genetic intervention, and additional evolution, say due to massive radiation. 8. Gene spliced creatures made to order. These can range from customized humans to totally new beings made with the desired combination of traits. 9. Furry fans like to read and write stories involving any of those creatures, admire and create art featuring them, and play games that include them. This includes playacting, such as answering the phone with a "meow." 10. But some people are more than just furry FANS. These people are FurBytes [The Electronic Furry Fanzine] #1 - Mar 1990 4 ---------------------------------------------------------------------- simply called FURRIES. 11. Furries are those who get into the concept so much that they deliberately develop alternate personas that actually have those animal traits. Each persona takes on a life of its own in a sort of controlled schizophrenia such as ventriloquists and fantasy gamers practice. [Ed. Note: I don't agree that role-playing of any sort, furry persona or Dungeons and Dragons, should accurately be called "controlled schizophrenia," any more than an author should be considered schizophrenic if she has the ability to create and maintain believable characters in a novel.] 12. Furries have many different ways to relate to their furry personas. Some think of them as totally different beings who happen to live inside them. Others see them as simply minor varients of themselves. And still others see them as vehicles for normally suppressed aspects of their own personalities. 13. The most interesting way of viewing a persona, though, is to see it as some sort of mystical entity that can confer benefits which are represented by the animal shape. Some relate this to a witch's familiar or to the spirit guardian of the Plains Indians. This can be taken literally, that is with actual belief in such entities, or in a Jungian fashion, that the animal shape is a symbolic key to unlock unconscious abilities. 14. Fine. So what do furries do with their personas? They communicate through them. The definition of the persona determines how the furry will express themself. This can be quite different from how the actual person does it. This may facilitate communication under circumstances in which the person would normally feel inhibited. 15. In fact it has been claimed that, despite the impression one might get about the persona as "putting on a mask," the use of the persona actually enables a person to be more genuinely themselves. That's because the persona has more freedom, not being subject to the stifling layers that social convention puts on us mere humans. 16. Long as we're getting free of social conventions, we might as well get to sex. Most furries are interested in the concept of sex between themselves as themselves, or themselves as their personas, with other such creatures. This differs from simple bestiality in that the partner is another mature sapient. So regardless of the species difference, it remains full participation sex between two people. 17. Dear me, did I say two? Two is another social convention. A lot (most?) furries like group sex. 18. In fact, social conventions seem to go down like dominos once one gets started. That may be why so many (most?) furries are bi. FurBytes [The Electronic Furry Fanzine] #1 - Mar 1990 5 ---------------------------------------------------------------------- 19. Let us now pause while the straight and monogamous folks come out from wherever they just dived into for cover. 20. Ok, didn't mean to chase anyone off. The point is that wherever may be on the spectrum, from full fledged furriness to just a reader of "Panda Khan," there is a place in furrydom for you. [end of file] For another perspective, we switch coasts from the California furry BBS's to the now-defunct DeathStar BBS of Washington, DC. The difference between east coast and west coast furry boards is quite noticeable: west coast systems tend to have a lot more 'involved' people wandering around them, but are also often harder to follow for a newcomer. California boards usually assume everyone knows what's going on; on DeathStar, there were only two or three people who had involvement with "furrydom" outside that BBS itself; despite the apparent disdain both the system and the furry SIG operator were held in by many West Coast fans, it was one of the few boards which delved, even briefly, into the philosophy of furry fandom: 11 [006] *NRB* "Furriness" By: KEN COUGAR-DS189 On: Fri May 12, 1989 3:00 PM LR: Sun May 14, 1989 1:59 PM -- 6 Responses -- Furriness. Why you guys need to categorize it and analyse it; I don't know. What it is: I can only tell you what it is for me. For me, it's an expression of parts of my personality that normally wouldn't get an outlet. It's Role-Playing that doesn't use a set of rules. For me, it's mostly an expression of myself for the people I care for. Having a furry persona allows me to look at things; Life, relationships, mostly social activities, from a different perspective. But, it's a creative tool. I use my personas to test the possibilities of relations. An aggressive persona would handle things one way. A timid one, another way. Games. For me, it's an elaborate game. I've been a Furry for as long as I can remember in my role-playing days. It's a way to be different. I feel I'm better able to accept the differences in other people because of it. It's hard trying to explain this. I'm not making too much sense to myself, cause it would take most of this hard-disk to write down all of the little nuances and quirks of why I am what I am. It's a part of me. It's a part of me that really doesn't and shouldn't need explaining. I think you guys should get away from worrying about why FurBytes [The Electronic Furry Fanzine] #1 - Mar 1990 6 ---------------------------------------------------------------------- and live with it. Have FUN with it. THAT is the jist behind it. It's FUN. coug'r - Response 1 Of 6 - By BACKSLASH-DS147 On Fri May 12, 1989 9:24 PM Actually, I understand what you are getting at. My own furry allows me to view myself from the outside, and is also a reflection/extension of my own personality. Yeah, having a furry is great if you tend to be shy or not very social. I've made a lot of friends though furry fandom and have yet to really lose one. And like you said, it's fun! --- So, have I scared anyone off with this? Hopefully not. Speaking of a "furry philosophy" may at first strike one as odd, but I'm sure that if one was willing to take the time, volumes of philosophical claptrap could be produced by talking to any serious fan, regardless of his or her personal hobbyhorse. Furry fandom _i_s more openly sensual than a lot of other fan groups I've seen, except for some of the "Beauty and the Beast" 'zines that have popped up recently (and if Vincent isn't a furry, I don't know what is), but this doesn't have to be considered a negative. If you have any comments on this article, send 'em on. Ever since I became involved with furry fan art and fiction, there has seemed to be a division between fans caused by the perceived explicitness of much of the work. While I'm of the opinion the degree of "explicitness" is vastly overstated, there have been at least two 'zines started with the apparent intention of being less explicit than FurVersion, the largest furry 'zine--and at least one started with the intention of being _m_o_r_e explicit than FurVersion.... ----- FurBytes [The Electronic Furry Fanzine] #1 - Mar 1990 7 ---------------------------------------------------------------------- TThhee FFuurrrryy FFaannzziinneess FURVERSION Editor/Publisher: Karl Maurer (Faux Paw Productions) Content: Comics, Art and Fiction, all ratings from "G" to "X" Most Recent Issue: #19, 62 pp. Recent Contributors: Last issue included art by Ted Sheppard, Mike Higgs, Bryce Nakagawa, Brian O'Connell, Shon Howell; comics by Chuck Melville, Eric Elliot, Bill Fitts; fiction by David White, Watts Martin Ordering Info: Subscriptions, $20. Each issue cost is subtracted from your balance; each issue normally runs $5. Single copy price: $6. Back issues of #17-#19 are available for $6 each. FurVersion 621 Boulevard Way Oakland, CA 94610-1642 Checks/Money Orders to: Karl Maurer or FurVersion --- YARF!, the Journal of Applied Anthropomorphics Editor/Publisher: Jeffrey Ferris Content: Comics, Art and Fiction, rated "G" to "R" Most Recent Issue: #1, 44 pp. Recent Contributors: Lance Rund, Bill Fitts, Maggie DeAlarcon, Kris Kreutzman, Monika Livingston, Fred Patten, Eric Elliot, Peter Glaskowsky, Shon Howell, Ruben Avila, Ken Sample, Brian O'Connell Ordering Info: $3.00 per issue, $24.00 for 8 mailed 1st class YARF! P.O. Box 1200 Cupertino, CA 95015-1200 Checks/money orders to: Jeff Ferris. --- FURNOGRAPHY Editors/Publishers: Robert & Brenda Daverin Content: Art and Fiction, "R" to "X" rating Most Recent Issue: #1 Recent Contributors: Brian O'Connell, Mitchell Biero, Scott Alston Ordering Info: $4 for issue #1, age statement required with contributions or purchase FurNography Robert & Brenda Daverin P.O. Box 2464 Redwood City, CA 94064 FurBytes [The Electronic Furry Fanzine] #1 - Mar 1990 8 ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Checks/Money Orders to: Robert Daverin or Brenda Daverin --- FURTHERANCE Editor/Publisher: Rune (Images Rune) Content: fiction, articles, art Most Recent Issue: #1, 40 pp. (#2 may be out) Recent Contributors: Scott Alston, Kevin Carroll, Shon Howell, Ed Zolna, Chuck Melville, Rune Ordering Info: $2.50 cover price, no subscription info FURtherance 200 Dupont Street Philadelphia, PA 19127-1208 --- HUZZAH! Editor/Publisher: Dwight Dutton (Thoughts & Images) Content: Fanzine for Thoughts & Images publications ("Erma Felna, EDF", "Space Wolf", "Rufus the Red", etc.) Most Recent Issue: #4 Recent Contributors: Dan Flahive, Paul Kidd, Steve Gallacci, Mark J. Paul, Steven B. Fellows, Lisa Iennaco, Roy Pounds, Chris Grant Ordering Info: $4.00/issue w/color centerfold $1.50/issue w/o centerfold Postage included in price HUZZAH! 6700 Warner Avenue #5-G Huntington Beach, CA 92647-5130 --- OTHER PUBLICATIONS We have no information other than what's listed below on these. Intercepted, 12536 Short Ave., Los Angeles, CA 90066 The Bestiary (small-press comic), Scott & Shirley Alston, 5137 Catherine St., Philadelphia, PA 19143 Fuzzy Nips (small-press comic by Bill Fitts/Mark Merlino), 13412 Gilbert St., Garden Grove, CA 92644 (Wildcat Press) If you have the addresses of any other furry/funny-animal fanzines or fan press comics, please let us know. ----- FurBytes [The Electronic Furry Fanzine] #1 - Mar 1990 9 ---------------------------------------------------------------------- BBuulllleettiinn BBooaarrdd SSyysstteemmss This list includes BBS's that have either a general "furry conference" (marked by {f}) and/or furry-oriented storyboards {s}. A storyboard in this definition is a free-form role-playing game where participants take the roles of different characters (furry or otherwise) and interact with other characters, like a conventional RPG but without referees. Send any updates, additions, or deletions to me via one of the methods at the end of this issue. Kyim's Scratching Post, Oakland, CA {fs}.............415 452-0350:2400 Sys: FoReM ST. Op: Karl Maurer. Tiger's Den, Garden Grove, CA {fs}...................714 530-2554:2400 Sys: Apple homebrew. Op: Andre Johnson. Thoughts & Images, Huntington Beach, CA {fs}.........916 846-8799:2400 Sys: TBBS. Op: Dwight Dutton. Stormgate Aerie, Los Angeles, CA {fs}................213 822-6729:2400 Sys: Opus. Op: Nicolai Shapero. The Wyvern's Den Pub, Sarasota, FL {fs}..............813 925-1386:1200 Sys: PBBS. Op: Watts Martin. aLTER rEALITY, Sarasota, FL {fs}.....................813 351-2530:1200 Sys: PBBS. Op: Franklin Veaux. Remote Control, Sarasota, FL {f}.....................813 378-2218:1200 Sys: Dragonfire. Op: Tyler Robinson. Courts of Chaos, Sarasota, FL {s}....................813 924-9124:2400 Sys: CNET 128. Op: Rocky Kinsey. The Electric Holt, Philadelphia, PA {f}..............315 387-4326:2400 Sys: WWIV Mac. Op: John DeWeese, Seth Grenald. ----- FFuurrrryy FFaann DDiirreeccttoorryy Yep, pretty short right now, eh? If you'd like to increase its length, drop me a line via mail or BBS with your info. I have no idea what, if anything, you'll gain by being listed here, but it probably can't hurt. Format: State/Zip & City listed first, followed by name and street address. This should make it easier to locate people in your general area than a straight alphabetical listing would. FL 34231 Sarasota: Watts Martin, 1820 S Lake Shore Dr FL 34243-2197 Sarasota: Chip P Unicorn, 5700 N Tamiami Tr #250 FL 34243-2197 Sarasota: Turtle, 5700 N Tamiami Tr #242 FL 33688-2987 Tampa: Bartholomew Fox, PO Box 272987 TX 76201 Denton: Ledru Corlett, 101C Heritage Ln FurBytes [The Electronic Furry Fanzine] #1 - Mar 1990 10 ---------------------------------------------------------------------- DDiissttrriibbuuttiioonn This file may be uploaded freely provided none of the contents are modified in any way. Hard copies of FurBytes may be distributed freely, provided that no fees other than printing costs are collected. Printouts of any issue of FurBytes may be obtained by sending a SASE to the address below. Entire Contents copyright (c) 1990 Osprey Press. Unless otherwise noted, all articles copyrighted by their respective authors. Send comments, articles, suggestions, and/or flames to: Watts Martin 1820 S. 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